ArenaNet talk:Skill feedback/Ritualist/Soul Twisting

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In it's current state Soul Twisting is brilliant for a Shelter spamming build, I don't use it beyond that b/c most spirits aren't going to get their effects off enough to be useful. So regarding this change I see it's current state as superior. The Sins We Die By 11:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

My suggested change would not have any effect on the usage of this skill for shelter spamming. The only change would be that you could use an other spirit destroying skill like rupture soul on the same spirit after casting soul twisting on it. Since Soul twisting allows a fast recreation of spirits, it would create a good synergy with other skills that destroy spirits and would make them viable in builds that only use a single spirit.--Lunk 17:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I like this idea. But I would buff it even a bit more like this: "Elite Skill. Target spirit dies after 10 seconds. Your next binding ritual casts 66% faster and recharges instantly." Don't know if it would be OP, but you wouldn't have to kill own spirits, if foe has one... A. von Rin 21:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

That is excellent A von. I'd use that. DO THAT, PLS. -- NUKLEAR IIV 19:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Three Wanderlusts. :O --76.25.197.215 06:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

No multiple copies of the same sprits. -- NUKLEAR IIV 14:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I like soul twisting. --Super Igor 14:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I like it for my resto build. Controls Life's spike and lets me throw it up in under a second. Far better than 3 second BR downtime. However, I think it'd be neat if it was scaled to spawning power to something like 1..2 "next binding rituals" @ 14 or something. Euphoracle 22:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

10 sec is a long wait to kill off your spirits, when i want to soul twist my spirit, i want it dead now, o/c if you are able to destroy it before and still the same effect then that would be nice, being able to use this on enemy spirit would be really nice, but that why i use gaze for atm, anyways how about 5 secs instead of 10, it be better, cause you would either destroy it right when you soul twist it anyways or would want its effect asap, i know i do --Metal Sazz 03:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Definately buff this. Right now you can pre-charge it with a spirit before a fight to get some use out of it and use it on a spirit which is about to die anyway and/or has an on-end effect, but it's still not really got the power an elite should have (though admittedly it is unlinked). A minor buff could push it into play a bit more often.

As it stands, you can also in fact use a 3 spirit, hit this, then use a 5 spirit to get your second one off faster than the normal 5 seconds. However, you only save about 1/3 or a second which isn't worth the 10+ and elite slot that this combo would cost. Making it something more like "Your next Binding Ritual casts 66% faster and has its cost reduced by half that spirit's cost" or something would make it more useful (although I'm not sure if it's even possible to get the skill used to create a spirit from the spirit, or at least if it would be easy enough that they'd consider doing it - they don't want to go through all the different spirits matching them to skills). Alternately, this might be more useful if it was something more like "Your next 2 Binding Rituals cast 50% faster and cost 50% less" or something. Maybe 33%, but that's not much of a buff.