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RANGER ASSASSIN

Please nerf this bs.. I am logging in less and less(because of it) and to see that this really bad build is all over gw. It does not make the game any more fun.... infact it does the opposite... another week of this bs = more ppl thinking about leaving this really dead game. alot of top teams are now only skrimaging to get their kicks out of top pvp since the ladder and tourney is fudged... Nice job ...... Also on that note... Check out the QQ forums a bit more if u want a large portion of the american pvp opinion.. not everyone shares the same opinion, but its all there... (they also use the N-word in every paragraph).. BTW skill balance crew.. i hope you all have your doctors notes to show the community cause if anything.... this ranger assassin thing had to go.... its too bad the Cultist Fevor BoonProts got removed in 1 day while the R/A bsbuild will get nerfed.... never?

GOOD EXAMPLE: R195 Tombs Is Srs Buisness [IWAY] vs R50 Yung Suwoopaz [RED] 5RA+Orders Necro+2monks vs your standard 2war frontline ranger/paragon/ele midline... RED gets rolled by the R/A....

go check it on obs... it would be nice if gw mods still did that kind of thing...u know.. to see what the state of pvp is.. (a mess).

--- Suxon Savior --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:156.34.94.32 (talk).

Cultist Fevor BoonProts got removed in 1 day while the R/A bsbuild will get nerfed.... never? <<< THIS THIS THIS THIS /AGREED --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:24.255.134.151 (talk).

Welcome to PvP. Since this build is relatively new as far as the metagame goes, expect about 8 months before it starts to be addressed. ~Shard 04:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

You can feel free to register an account and post your game suggestions in the Feedback area we have recently opened. If you wish to provide feedback on a specific game update, feel free to leave your comments on the appropriate page listed at Feedback:Game updates. Continually bringing these types of issues directly to Linsey's page will only result in the loss of your wiki editing privileges. Also, please note that the entire GW Live Team is currently out with the Swine Flu that they got at PAX, so I wouldn't expect anything to be done or even responded to for several days. -- Wyn talk 05:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I dont need to register a account ...on that note... a)shouldn't you be in the kitchen or something? pvp seems like your fortee eh? b) I would post it in the build feedback if I felt like it needed to be there...but its more than that.. its something that should be addressed now.. not pissed on in a topic i bet mods wont ever glance on.. -Suxon Savior --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:156.34.94.32 (talk).

*==RAGER ASSASSIN== Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 05:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but developers don't listen to random anonymous nobodies who scream at their pages. ~Shard 06:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

They actually do. This is why shitway, scythe-sway, Heroway, ursan(prenerf), godmode, 600/smite... even existed months before it was addressed as a problem. --Boro 06:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

IP's are welcome to post, but everyone needs to keep it civil. If however, anyone wishes to provide relevant feedback to the Live Team, they really should do it through the proper system, either posting regarding a specific game update (this does not require account registration), or by registering and creating a Feedback space and submitting it as a game suggestion. It will receive more attention from the team that way, as well as have plenty of space for community comments. -- Wyn talk 08:14, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

"--->Kitchen" ... lmao... Would be awesome if someone could translate the rest though. Complaining about a build without actually explaining what it does or how it's winning? wut? --ilr 11:34, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

The build works as follow: ranger has his lower energie cost prim att, he uses it to make assasin skills cost less. This gives the ranger a faster spike rate then a normal assasin. This is how it works. Got no opinion about it. Death Sligher 13:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

And escapes you to death... --Boro 14:22, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

so what you're saying is they need to add more iterations of DD and GS for people who fail with RM and WC? --ilr 22:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

We are nerfing the R/A build tomorrow. Calm down. Tomorrow is not never. - Linsey talk 17:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

O.o Confirmation of a nerf, nice =D--Unendingfear File:User Unendingfear Crane eats peanut.jpg 17:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Some days, it'd be nice to be able to just give devs like Linsey a hug. They put up with ignorant bullshit whenever they log onto the wiki and somehow (either from the good of their hearts or from the apathy of their paychecks) still manage to give enough of a damn to try to keep the majority of players happy, regardless of the fact that that majority doesn't have wiki accounts and likely never drops a "thank you". I wish I could apologize to you, Linsey, for the sheer amount of autism you're forced to comb through every time you read through your talk pages, but I'm not sure anything I could say to the effect of "I'm sorry" could ever make up for it. Hopefully, you might get a smile out of reading this. Maybe you'll just think I'm a belligerent ass. Either way, I'm just happy you devs still bother to update and produce new content for a game that's been out over 4 years. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Way to kiss ass. I think you're more worried about insulting everyone else. Keep kissing some butt and calling everyone on the internet autistic, you might earn yourself an NPC.

No disrespect to Lindsey, but these wanna-be christ-figures lurking wiki get on my nerves. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә & ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 21:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

IRT Linsey: Thx Linsey

IRT Aliceandsven +1

IRT Danny:

Yeah I bet your a pretty big 400lb teddybear that linsey would love to get hugged by.
Infact, they coined the term bearhug after you due to the last victim that let you hug them.
Too bad you didn't actually appologize to linsey or I would have to call you a pussy.
As for my autism, theres a reason why it went directly to linsays journal.. because they brought it upon themselves.
Armor Of Sanctity used by almost all monks in the monthly... nice job making dervs used more.. NOT.
Assassin combo, same shit.. Lot more assassins now isnt there ?.. NOT.  

You can come up with ideas which could theoretically work, but stuff is not ideal... thats why there are developpers... I just figured that if they had 4years of updates under their belt that they wouldnt fudge it up as much as they did..(and take so long to fix the situation). long live the escape ranger (and its last day to live).

Hopefully it wont be followed up by a equally fail update as the last one.. 
Cause we all like seeing 5R/A beat out your standard top50 team... 
 

--- Suxon Savior --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:156.34.94.32 (talk).

tl;dr Savior. If it's over 30 words, i'm not reading it. also bipolar Alice, i'm no where near a Christ-figure (in fact, check me out on PvX for a better taste of my personality), but I'm tired of shitheads who get butthurt over the fact that the devs overbuffed Skill A and nerfed Skill B. Skill balancing isn't so much an art as it is trial-and error. Get over the fact that the game isn't perfect or go play WoW and complain about how retardedly unbalanced it is, because at least then your $15/month earns you the right to bitch and moan endlessly.

More importantly, though, is the fact that as individuals, your opinions and incessant whining doesn't matter. I'm sure ANet knows when something needs to be fixed. It shouldn't be required that Linsey jump in to comment on that fact, especially when they've always made sure that melee-specific classes are not pushed out of the meta for too long. Just cut them some slack - it's not their faults you were born with mental-disabilities. ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

When you nerf R/A tomorrow, Linsey - be sure to do it on the Ranger side rather than the Assassin side. Rangers haven't had any nerfs in the past 6 months, Rangers can solo invincible, and Rangers don't have any problems getting into a PUG. /sarcasm. --Ninjatek 23:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, this has become a bunch of flaming nonsense, with, from what I can see, too many NPA violations to count. If you have direct suggestions on how you wish changes to be made, create a feedback page and post your suggestions. Since Linsey has confirmed that the current R/A gimmick that is being abused is getting nerfed tomorrow, I would expect they already know exactly what changes they are making to it, making any/all user suggestions moot. Move on to a new topic please. -- Wyn talk 00:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Linsey, you spoke to me about nerfing Escape. While this is a step in the right direction, it is not going to fix the problem. I can say this with absolute certainty because R/A builds have already proven effective using different elites (namely Assault Enchantments).

On a related subject, I've a feeling that you may nerf dagger attacks in order to hurt the build. While this is, again, well-intended, I'd like to point out that you did buff these very skills for a reason - they were underpowered and underused. What would undoing that accomplish, save reinstituting the same issues that you sought to eliminate in the previous update? The dagger attacks are balanced, just like as attacks were (relatively) balanced outside of the previous iteration of Sway. What makes scythe and dagger attacks imbalanced on rangers?

The same thing that makes Icy Shackles imbalanced on mesmers, and Recuperation imbalanced on elementalists, and "Watch Yourself!" on Paragons (before the nerfs to it, at any rate), and scythe attacks on Assassins. It's compensation for a primary attribute, which breaks when used with non-primary skills.

I've written it out in more detail in the suggestions namespace, but I thought I'd post the essence of it here in the hopes that we might avoid a series of unnecessary nerfs. is for Raine, etc. 08:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

LoL i C wut U did thar --ilr 09:09, 17 September 2009 (UTC)