Feedback talk:User/Weston/Dagger Mastery General Change

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More to come but I got decided to take a break from writing :P Weston talk 20:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Blades of Steel does not need a buff of this format. And Exhausting Assault being able to follow itself just sets a caster to 0 energy for the rest of the match, you may want to change that. Koda Kumi 21:21, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Exhausting Assault is able to be casted after itself because it exhausts the caster, not the target :] Weston talk 21:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I reworded it to be better understood, sorry for the confusion. Weston talk 21:27, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Now it is just completely useless instead of overpowered, considering assassins have 30 energy max :P Koda Kumi 13:56, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Blades of steel is OP, other then that the changes looks good --- I do wonder if exhausting strike might become OP, I know it exhausts the user but it can be used none stop, with 33% IAS, you could do a chain then exhausting 3x for a massive fast spike... yes it leaves the sin crippled afterwards, but his target would have probably died...... also in places like AB (who cares about AB amirite?) where theres time between spikes it becomes even stronger -Talamare- feedback 01:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Serious Warning

If you use PvX wiki builds for PvP stop NOW there's a serious virus going around. It may already be too late, you may have to uninstall GuildWars! Side effects include: Lack of creativity, skill, and the ability to play the game. If you or someone you know has developed an elitist attitude PvX wiki may be the cause! This has been an important message from your local assassin. Weston talk 20:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Weston. PvX should be viewed as a tool or a guideline to understanding the most common or "meta" builds currently played in GW. The very last thing PvX should be used as is a sword to tear apart other players' builds. I'm sure there are people in the game who demand that others use PvX builds, but those people are idiots.

GW is a game. Games are meant to be fun and creative, and PvX understands and embraces that fact. So, in the future, Weston, please do your best to view PvX as a tool for players, rather than some sort of "virus". Otherwise, you may in fact be the one contaminating people with your ignorance.

Have a wonderful evening. Karate Jesus 21:05, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I prefer to fight against players when I PvP not templates, if you don't agree with that it's your own personal opinion. Prehaps it is you who should rethink your statement. Weston talk 21:08, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm an admin at PvX. It's not my "personal opinion". It's what the purpose of PvX is. Karate Jesus 21:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Just because your an admin of something doesn't change the fact that 90% of all PvP is now based around meta builds with no creativity. I appreciate PvX wiki when it comes to PvE as it's fair. But when it comes to playing against other players I do not agree. Weston talk 21:15, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

There is soooo much irony in that statement.....I really don't know what to say. Just so you know, at PvX we just host the builds, we don't make them. You would be playing the same builds whether we posted them or not (i.e. GWGuru often posts the same builds). Karate Jesus 21:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say PvX wiki made the builds did I? No. And you have no knowledge of how I play or what I play so your statement about how I'd be running the same builds even if they weren't on Wiki is completely false and based on nothing but your opinion. Congratulations to you for defending someone not because it's the right thing to do, but because you're completely biased. Anyways, this was supposed to be posted under my Talk instead of here, for some reason I accidently posted it here. If we could move this to my talk page and keep this page open for discussion about my suggested skill changes I would appreciate it. By the way, do you have any suggestions/comments for my suggested skill changes? Weston talk 21:23, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Biased? Ok, now I know that I should probably stop trying to talk to you. And as far as your skill suggestions go, you're missing the point. The reason many of those skills need to be nerfed isn't because of the skills themselves, but the methodology used to exploit them (i.e. Expertise). Karate Jesus 21:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

(Reset Indent) They don't need to nerf the skills, they need to nerf Expertise to apply only while wielding a bow. Tada.... Weston talk 21:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

That's basically exactly what I just said + the bow suggestion :/ Karate Jesus 21:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Except my skill changes arn't just damage nerf/buffs, they're different skills o_o and they're not PvP or PvE specific... not many rangers go R/A Daggers in PvE.... not that I know of at least Weston talk 21:38, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it's become a pretty popular build in PvE (the R/A with daggers), as has W/A's with daggers, etc. Karate Jesus 21:41, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Strange o_O I've never seen that, must be playing in the wrong districts haha :P Weston talk 21:42, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

lol pvx is for noobs that cant think up their own skill bars Dark Morphon 17:10, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

see the thing about PvXwiki is that shit only shows up on there if it is obviously good (normally). God forbid two people should see synergy in a set of skills right? O.O 71.193.48.146 17:13, 22 January 2010 (UTC)