Guild talk:We Are Six Inches Enchanted

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I would like to submit proof of my accusation of cheating as well. http://oi62.tinypic.com/2ldgmtw.jpg - This picture shows the finals match. The winning team being [avg]. I have selected the target mesmer. The mesmer does not have any damage mitigating or increasing skill damage used on him. You notice the 122 damage obsidian flame. With this flux, you can bring 11 in earth magic for a base of 73 armor ignore damage. Glyph of Elemental Power AND Elemental Attunement would bring earth magic up to 15 with an Obsidian Flame damage of 92. WITH the flux 15% damage the most you can do in the game is 106. Even with a +1 (20%) offhand mod it would only increase the damage to 112. So with that being said - In this flux - 122 damage Obsidian Flame is impossible to do, and there is no other conclusion to be had other than that [avg] cheated to win gold. Toolboxing 100%. Botting most likely. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 00:37, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

request

I'd like to get the next names removed from the Core Roster list since the user Gladiator Motoko can't/won't give us any proofs(screen-shots/vent or ts recordings/etc.) about us playing there, instead he keeps ignoring or flaming us in-game.

Ep S Hubet HamsterHurter The Zynkh You Hate/Run This City

Thanks. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 189.232.113.85 (talk) at 22:37, 5 July 2014‎ (UTC).

I don't see a need to document their IGNs other than the ones they played with to win. (e.g. Guild:Inadequately Retired.) A list of the names found in the screenshot that motoko did provide would be sufficient imo. -Chieftain Alex 22:03, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. Or at the very least, don't list any name in brackets next to those three character names that are involved in this dispute. --Silver Edge 05:43, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
As per Alex, the character names in the actual match are the only thing the wiki should be listing. Further information is exceedingly trivial. I can't find this list online right now, though. - Infinite - talk 11:21, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
It would be trivial if no crime had been committed. I do not think the players who were a part of the cheating should be left untouched. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 21:37, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
We're a wiki, not a community fit for passing judgement calls onto in-game misbehaviours. We merely document the match-up. But I do appreciate your passion for fair play and letting a playerbase know who was involved. - Infinite - talk 22:39, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

My intent is not for judgement to be passed. I am only trying to accurately place the players with the guild. If they are concerned with being judged, I would expect they would have been aware of that before signed up to mAT with the 3rd party programs. I am glad someone can appreciate what I am trying to do, to an extent :P Gladiator Motoko (talk) 23:16, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Ep S, Hubet Hamsterhurter, The Zynkh You Hate/Run This City

I want to mention a few things before I get started. The people I have acquired information from are not exactly friends, and quite often they are either people I have never spoken with before or only barely interacted with since GW first began. The screens will show blacked out sections in order to protect the people who provided them from harassment. My intent is not biased towards any individual. My information serves only to make sure this list is accurate, and the players who partook in it receive the recognition they deserve.

  • Ep, Hubet, and Zynkh had all intentions to play with [GoD]. This guild was known to have access to "toolboxing". Ep had admitted to having access to toolboxing via Nathan Carroll [avg]. Ep had also mentioned that if Nate allowed him, he would be able to bypass the flux in the mAT. Both Hubet and Zynkh had practice ATs with [GoD] while using toolboxing. However, [GoD] disbanded 2 days before the mAT. Here is where things get interesting.
  • http://teamquitter.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35203&p=485035#p485035 - Nick = Hubet - Quote "I immediately accepted that I'd used toolbox to cheat (albeit in 2 or at most 3 games, it was some time ago but I believe it was 2 games)" - If you go through the 22 pages of the thread Nick(Hubet) vigorously defends [avg] and how they received unfair treatment and that other guilds he thinks cheated should be treated with the same malice.
  • Prior to the mAT, both Hubet AND Zynkh joined The Almond Brothers [bros] and proceeded to state that they both could not play. They afk'd in the guild hall. HOWEVER, guild members of [bros] noticed that despite their inability to play, they would un-afk in between rounds of the mAT. When the mAT was over, both Zynkh and Hubet left [bros]. Suspicious? Sure. Conclusive? You're right, its not. Here are some sources from [bros] players: http://oi58.tinypic.com/98g0f7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FwhhGhN.png - First picture is a member of [bros] pointing out odd behavior from Zynkh and Nick(Hubet). Second picture is the guild history for [bros]. Unfortunately it only goes so far. The second one shows "Bruce Bearbasher" aka Nick//Hubet leaving AFTER the mAT is over. The large rating changes and date indicate mAT matches. According to [bros] players Zynkh was invited and kicked several times.
  • According to the above proof, it is safe to say Hubet(Nick) was in [bros] during the mAT. HOWEVER, from speaking with Hubet(Nick) he had claimed to not really remember where he was in the mAT. Possibly some guild with the tag [pure] and a blue trim. Source: http://oi57.tinypic.com/153tbwj.jpg - Unfortunately, this does not line up with the above screenshot that shows Hubet(Nick) in the [bros] guild.
  • Now, the following screen was taken during AB week (this past week): http://oi62.tinypic.com/1orjhh.jpg - Hubet was supposedly afk in the [bros] guild hall during the mAT. How then, did he possibly mAT? He was not in any other guild with his main. And if he played on a second account in an alternate guild, why has he not come forth with evidence to show who he played with that wasn't [avg]? This screen shows he played the recent mAT in the same team as Ep. This screen places both Ep and Hubet on the same team for the mAT. Neither played in the guild [GoD] due to disband issues and they were also not seen playing for any other guild.
  • [avg] members have messaged me that Ep, Nick(Hubet), and Zynkh were the remaining three mystery players. (Keep in mind I would not accept this as evidence alone, but this information being provided to me without my mentioning of the given evidence it certainly doesn't hurt)
  • The fact that Hubet and Zynkh both joined [bros] and committed the same exact actions of joining, stating they can't play, showing up in between matches, then leaving as soon as the mAT ended strongly ties them together.
  • Zynkh and Ep had an unusual increase in RPs after the mAT. An increase that would not be associated with players who did not mAT. An increase I found strange as I am essentially the face of trim moderation so I do have a lot more insight to the market and its sellers than anyone else.
  • When I have contacted Zynkh - He has refused to answer the question of where he was during the mAT. He does not even say he did not play. He does not give another guild he played in. He does not even say that he was out at a party or some other obligation. He only avoids answering and continues to insult and flame.

If everyone thinks that what I have provided above isn't good enough to merit their names on that list. Fine. Keep it that way. But know that what I have provided STRONGLY suggests that they were involved with [avg] and tried their hardest to cover it up. I have received constant harassment by Zynkh and Nick(Hubet) due to the conclusions that have been made, VERY hostile behavior on their end. For players who claim "I don't care about this game" to become so emotional over something trivial like this is a little odd. As I have mentioned before, I just want this wiki accurate. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 20:31, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

daw u ginger n virgin wat r u trash talking ppl m8 u fucking dum as bread 109.221.56.121 22:56, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
http://i.imgur.com/o2RhBlN.jpg - Ep changed the pw to the ts the day of the mAT, even though he claimed to have been at the beach. Ep owns his own vent. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Gladiator Motoko false accusations

Hello,

I'm Zynkh/Run This City and after reading the proofs the user Gladiator Motoko said he had I could say they all speculations, those screens CAN'T prove anything about us playing there (Ep S/Hubet Hamsterhurter/The Zynkh You Hate or Run This City)

In the FIRST place, the screens he provided the character-name Robert Et Federer - made all these speculations with Motoko and pm'd everyone asking questions, then again, like Motoko he couldn't prove anything at all. In SECOND place, it's funny how he's saying I won't answer any of his questions when I ALREADY did 2 weeks ago, right after he wrote my name in here but he DIDN'T listen at all, instead he kept ignoring/flaming me and making false accusations without PROVING ANYTHING. In THIRD place, after getting ignored/flamed by Motoko I decided to talk with Jorn (he was trying to find actually real proofs about the people playing in [avg] and actually he cared about the things I had to say, here's the proof: http://oi61.tinypic.com/2z3rud1.jpg

  • About the guild [GoD] YES, I played there since the beginning, the accusation he's making about me using the toolbox in some aT's is false.
  • I joined the guild [bros] after {GoD] disbanded and I CLEARLY said I had no idea on what to do (wasting 1 entire month on playing with [GoD] then disbanding 2 days before the mAT was pretty dumb and I was in a bad mood to play) and also the guild Observe Us [inHD] asked me 1 day before to play for them,[bros] had no people 30 mins. before the reg. of the mAT ended so I decided to play for [inHD] and left [bros], when I went to [iNHD] guild hall they needed 4 people more (3 with me) and their guild leader decided to pull out, then I had no-where else to play so I decided to log off, after 1 hour I logged in and asked for a guild invite to [bros], went to their guild-hall and they had henchies so I didn't want to waste my time and logged off again, I got KICKED from {bros] (as the screen-shot shows)
  • About the accusaton of Nick playing for [bros] once again, it's FALSE, when Nick joined [bros} he said he couldn't play because he had some stuff to do, that's what he said in guild-chat.
  • According to Motoko, I had an unusual ammount of rp's, I got the rp's from playing and winning every single aT C with the guild {GoD] plus I saved the rps I got from past mAT's (May/April), once again he's obviously LYING because I only sold a trim ONCE (4 days ago) and HE DIDN'T mod that trade.

And I'd like to provide the next screen-shots, it shows the user Gladiator Motoko avoiding me when I ask him for proofs he been saying he got, instead of showing proofs he makes racist comments and decide to flame me, again (it's the second time I decided to pm him after 2 weeks)

After that I went afk, but he kept spamming the same question, so it's kinda funny how he's saying I just insult him and flame him when I didn't say anything bad at all, instead he decided to make some racist comments, insulting, and spamming.

And for the wiki record I'd like to provide this screen, when it shows that a mod from this Wiki (Auron) decided to pm me in-game, could this mod. prove this?

After saying Good luck he went offline, 10 mins later he pm'd Nick (Hubet), not trying to make any false accusations like some people but I would say that was Motoko on one of his alts.

Quote: VERY hostile behavior on their end. For players who claim "I don't care about this game" to become so emotional over something trivial like this is a little odd. As I have mentioned before, I just want this wiki accurate.

I barely care about this game, never took it serious and I never went emotional, but why would I stay quiet after you been accusing us for the past 2 weeks? like it's not odd at all, we're just trying to prove the truth.

Anyways, have fun.

It was never stated Nick played for [bros], please pay better attention to what you are refuting. The reason I would not provide anything to you when you requested was due to the fact I needed the above explanation to piece all of it together without you trying to refute/interrupt me. And yes. I did shit talk you. After two weeks of pm's and harassment it happens. Of course I pm'd you and Nick on alternate accounts - Neither of you would share the information to defend yourself on where you were during the mAT. I don't have to mod your trade to know you sold a trim, you put a thread on guru where anyone familiar with the English language can read it. Keep in mind, I am using what I have available to me. If you can accurately provide proof to support your claims, please do. But try and refrain from allowing your emotions and frustrations to get the best of you when you respond here or message me in game. Thank you.
  • A pic of [inHD] guild history would help support your story. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 01:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I NEVER used an alt account to shit talk you hahaha, are you trying to HIDE/EXCUSE yourself that you just tried to impersonate one of the Wiki mods (Auron)? You needed the stuff I wrote? that's what I told you 2 weeks ago. All your 'evidence' is completely circumstantial and most of it irrelevant, the fact is that with all the stuff you wrote your just trying to hide that any of it it's good, can't be called evidence at all. Do I gotta remind when you tried to join the HA syncers team and how they didn't want to take you on their team (Akey/leader of [inHD]) 'cause you wrote my name on this wiki and kept lying around without proving I played for [avg]? The leader of [inHD] told you I was there , and that we tried to play the mAT. Once again, all lies Motoko.
Again, please read the english language a lot more carefully. It makes this a lot less painful. I never stated you used an alt to shit talk me. You just use your main for that. I am not hiding anything. I flat out used an alt account to get more information out of you since you wouldn't say anything. You act like you are 10. I am trying to sort out the information I have and line up items. Great if you told me two weeks ago. If I had that information stored I wouldn't waste my time asking you again. So when I ask for information, you should expect it would be in your best interest instead of acting like you are guilty. He said she said. Please provide a screen of [inHD]. Hopefully that won't be too hard for you. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 02:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure if Auron had bothered to pm anyone then he would have used a recognisable account. I doubt thats him, its probably someone trying to wind you up.
@Motoko, just drop the whole "i want to make the wiki accurate" charade - it does not embellish the reputation of the wiki or the quality of the page to go witchhunting on our behalf, and the page already contains more information than is necessary. Posting folk's IP addresses is their information to disclose as they wish - don't do that again either. -Chieftain Alex 07:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

No IPs have been posted. Thank you for your concern though. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 08:44, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Erm no. -Chieftain Alex 18:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I didn't post that IP the user from that IP posted their IP. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 22:12, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Update on Ep

http://i.imgur.com/IZWp7DV.png - Self-explanatory. Re-adding him back to the list on the page. Gladiator Motoko (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Edit of incorrect info

Since this page has been protected to prevent editing, please remove "| trim = Gold" since the trim has been removed by ANet. Thanks, Steve1 (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

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