Talk:Avatar of Lyssa
Cooldown[edit]
Why is there a 30 sec cooldown if it says it's disabled for 120 sec? Colossus 16:38, 3 May 2007 (EDT)
- I've never played a Dervish, but I suspect it was so that morale boost couldn't recharge it? Or maybe it has to do with interrupts, so that you wait less time for the skill to be available after it is interrupted, but if it is successful you have to wait 2 minutes. - BeX 16:42, 3 May 2007 (EDT)
- Kinda late, but it's for if it gets interrupted I believe. Vengeance Signet 07:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- It's also like that to avoid people using QZ or Serpent's Quickness to spit out the Avatar more often. RitualDoll 03:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- It helps if you get interrupted while using this skill, 'cause you don't have to wait 120 secs to use it again. VSync 19:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ur baed. -- 21:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- I know this is a bit past due, but a note to those that read this.. PvE characters can maintain an avatar state with the use of Eternal Aura. [Also, against what's stated above.. Moral Boosts do recharge the forms.] Magic Talk 23:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ur baed. -- 21:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- It helps if you get interrupted while using this skill, 'cause you don't have to wait 120 secs to use it again. VSync 19:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- It's also like that to avoid people using QZ or Serpent's Quickness to spit out the Avatar more often. RitualDoll 03:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Kinda late, but it's for if it gets interrupted I believe. Vengeance Signet 07:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Package[edit]
Okay so I was playing gw a few days ago in ra. I saw one of those d/a w/ this skill. Somehow I start lagging and the whole world just freezes and i start looking at the avater. And omg boom! I notice the crotch area and there is an unsightly buldge in this area. So, my question is, Who else things lyssa is a sheman? --Lou-Saydus 20:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- -And....how did this make it to the discussion board? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.35.88.45 .
- To answer the...strange...question, Lyssa is the God of Illusions, which means she can appear as whatever she wants to be, in this case a cross between Fe/Male. ~ Tengu
- Lyssa - "have you seen my downstairs mixup? I've got a mangina!" Also, a bit beardy.--Son of Batman 12:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Seeing as how she has multiple faces she could also have multiple gender defining "parts".
Energy[edit]
whenever this form is removed from me when i have no energy, my energy stays at 0 for a while, is this because you lose the extra energy given from the form and you're actually in minus figures on energy? Hime-chan 15:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, your energy can go into negative values and the display will read 0 until you regen the deficit. --Valshia 16:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Is this a bug or is it just the way the game functions? --Jurbadis 16 December 2007
- Game mechanic. - HeWhoIsPale 21:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Use high energy set and get ure energy really low, then switch to a noraml set to see how it works 24.141.45.72 00:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Game mechanic. - HeWhoIsPale 21:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Is this a bug or is it just the way the game functions? --Jurbadis 16 December 2007
Own[edit]
All I know is that when I use this avatar against an proffesion I find myself hitting 100+ with not even a maxed sythe, so all i know is that this is overkill!
- It's not overkill. Not at all, in my opinion. It's an elite skill, therefore it should be a very good skill. Like with Glass Arrows on a Ranger, I can hit over 100 damage. I've even done up to 216 damage in one hit with that skill. If an elite skill that enhances your damage quite a bit is overkill, there are quite a few overkill elites that I know of. BmLeyt 23:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- use with daggers attack interrupts :p 24.141.45.72 00:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- I remember using this against a Warrior activating Healing Signet... priceless. --MrDark88 03:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Any1 else notice this increasingly often? A D/A with AoL and Repeating Strike? Is it just me? Why are all of my sentences questions? 68.196.242.88 15:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)?
- With Repeating Strike, all you're doing is skill-spamming to up your DPS, without any increase in attack speed or accomplishing anything else (like, as someone mentioned earlier, interrupting). There are better alternatives, IMHO. --SoraMitsukai 15:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
what stupidity, interrupting doesnt yield the bonus damage. heart of flame + golden phoenix strike, wild strike (or fox fangs) and ninetail strike is the best combo for this form in pvp. fill the slots with anything else you want. 86.161.94.177 14:47, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Golden Phoenix is an offhand attack lol. →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 12:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- You can use it if you are enchanted ;) 213.93.109.51 16:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- I meant why would you need wild strike if you got golden phoenix? →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 20:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think he meant Golden fox for unblockable chain. (I would use death blossom instead of nine tail, for its aoe and bigger spammability, tough). 79.186.155.198 09:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- I meant why would you need wild strike if you got golden phoenix? →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 20:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- You can use it if you are enchanted ;) 213.93.109.51 16:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
An Awesome Avatar with a crap look and animations, honestly rethink this avatars physical appearance, a he-she with 4 faces and a gold light-bulb thing for a head.--Hubbard The Dervish 15:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- Um, I just spent an evening wedging my scythe into the tops of mesmer skulls and yanking the blade roughly back through their faces, blood and gore courtesy of this skill... so I kind of don't care when I look like the Goddess of Chaos's Avatar. 141.165.170.59 05:08, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Will the dmg bonus apply only if you use attack skills or for regular attacks as well? I knwo it only says attacks but I don't see any difference really Nay the One and Only 01:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- Does the damage bonus also work with spells? or just attack skills? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:99.14.140.108 (talk).
- "Attack" means hitting with attacks, not really spells. So with AoL, you'd get the damage bonus from normal attacks and attack skills. As I believe, only Ebon Battle Standard of Honor increases the damage done by spells.--Iggy The Iguana 16:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Does the damage bonus also work with spells? or just attack skills? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:99.14.140.108 (talk).
- Will the dmg bonus apply only if you use attack skills or for regular attacks as well? I knwo it only says attacks but I don't see any difference really Nay the One and Only 01:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
So... she had a makeover[edit]
Honestly I got addicted to half recharge enchants pretty sharpish, and the energy theft is gravy. Tasty gravy, mind. It seems quite possible just to load up with flash enchants and watch stuff blow up? Cirian 10:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- not as devastatingly powerful as her old form. But Definitely a very good Elite! Especially building a build around her. Often times it works great! She is by far my favorite Avatar right now! She just screams Combos!--Yozuk 05:43, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't know anything about her old form, but I have to say, the half recharge enchants makes maintaining Kinetic Armor as a D/E pretty fun and amazing. Basically unstoppable on Kourna with a full party.--66.229.220.115 09:58, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Worthless Elite now, half recharge on weak enchants that do 30 damage if that in HM with a few conditions? Not worth it. 80.42.205.123 11:00, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I kinda agree. I don't play PvE but in PvP, I've been trying it out as a newb Dervish. Seems really gimmicky but it can do some things. Previously Unsigned 02:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Chaos Damage[edit]
Is it worth mentioning in the Notes/Trivia that this is the only skill that is associated with the chaos damage type? 174.253.14.247 00:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I think so, yes. --Combatter 16:09, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Animations[edit]
One thing that's surprised me after all this time is that she still only uses Mesmer female animation even with a Scythe. Since it's all based around Dervish enchantments now anyway shouldn't they at least let her use the pretty scythe animations they worked so hard on? I spend all my time in combat in this form now and there's only one "swipe" animation.--72.35.67.9 19:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)