Talk:Main Page/editcopy/Archive 9

Events project...

i was thinking seeing as the main page already has a lot of lay outs for events that we should make that be automated. so every other year we get a different version of the main page for the events that have more then one. that way we dont get this bs where it sits unchanged until half of a week threw the event *cough* this years wintersday *cough*... i was also thinking that we could either come up with a new main page layout for this year or a change in icons. thoughts ideas?- Zesbeer 10:45, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Well automating it would be simple. Just template the page so that the header colors and icons change based on a #switch variable effected by a datedif. That, or actually template the whole main page (the content of the menu boxes would be on their own templates, and called into the page itself to remove those weekly-ish edits) and have that set to the switch/datedif variable. Either way would provide for new layouts to be made (and if the second option is used, previewed easily). As for a new page layout entirely, that'll take some work.--Neithan Diniem 03:59, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

The issue is "when does <event> start?" - though that can be figured out, it won't be the same every year, so it will still have to be manually to some degree. -- Konig/talk 04:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Then a simple variable change, then. Some variable named "event" can be changed to whatever event name and thus change the layout's appearance.--Neithan Diniem 04:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, we don't need such heavy-duty stuff for this. Just have a page with a schedule on it, and what to do during those days (particularly about what to do if there is no consensus on a design/hasn't been discussed yet). --JonTheMon 05:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

(ec)It's worth noting that, if a layout and a date to change it were agreed upon sufficiently ahead of time as this idea would require, there wouldn't be a problem getting an admin to push it live on-time in the first place. - Tanetris 05:01, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

@Tanetris: How I understand it, this is to prevent the need for a layout and date to agree on. Since, as you point out, that is the trouble (also the fact that admins have to be poked on their talk pages...). I say all we really need to do is make 3 Main Page sub-pages (one for Halloween, one for Wintersday (and Wintersday in July?), and one for CNY/Dragon Festival (since they share the same decorations, collectors, and items)), and just poke an admin to push it forward at the appropriate times. No need to make it automatic (though that's not a bad idea!). Said sub-pages could/should include unique feature articles to them as well (with their own cycling system perhaps, if there's multiple of them, so that it isn't always the same), so that those don't have to be altered during the change. -- Konig/talk 05:10, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually... I already finished doing a mock up of it. Take a look here. It can only switch between "Normal" and "Wintersday" so far, and it includes one template call (for the box styles). I have it set up for 6 different themes: Normal (0), Wintersday/in July (1), Canthan New Year/Dragon Festival (2), April Fools Day (3), Birthday Celebration (4), Halloween (5), and Special (6). Special is for limited time events that we may want to get in on. Themes can be reduced for simplicity. Template names and variable names are of course changeable.--Neithan Diniem 05:32, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: Now it also has a "Halloween" theme, as well as a year variable (not entirely needed, threw it in for now though). Did we have any theme for the canthan new year ever? If so I'll throw that one in too.--Neithan Diniem 06:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

i think either or both could work i like what Neithan Diniem has done.- Zesbeer 12:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Kinda thought of a way to automate the monthly game updates links too (I think, I'll need to tinker around with it a bit). Would you all like that added in as well? If it works like I hope, it would automatically update all 3 month's links, as well as account for year differences (eg: Jan 2011, Dec 2010, Nov 2010). Thing is the red links that would appear if there hasn't been an update in that month yet. Could throw in a #ifexist variable I guess and make it so the links are just text until the update page is actually made... That or make an ambiguous page they would link to stating no updates have been made. Anywho, would that be something you guys would want, or should that remain as a manual change?--Neithan Diniem 15:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

EDIT:Alright, got my idea to automate the game update links to work. It takes in account the switch of the new year, so the links stay accurate no matter what. Only thing to decide now is how to deal with any red links that'll pop up. Also need the ideas about other themes and how they should look.--Neithan Diniem 16:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the red link problem! Now instead of the page updating the game update links on the first of the month, it instead waits till an update page for the current month is made. For example, if used now, it will displaythe updates for January 2011, December 2010, and November 2010. Next month it would display the updates for February 2011, January 2011, and December 2010 after an update page is created for February. As for the themes, Ive made a mock Canthan New Year theme (follow this link and put "Canthan New Year" or "Dragon Festival" in the template). The only major other event we have is the birthday celebration, not sure what theme to use for that.--Neithan Diniem 00:59, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

good work dude. i think it looks epic i would love to ear what others have to say... btw red and yellow not so epic...- Zesbeer 03:09, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Yea, I know. Im good at putting it together, not the appearance. What I made was just a mock up using the colors of the dragon festival. If someone comes up with a theme for it on the editcopy I'll transfer it over. And your not the only one wanting some feedback on it.--Neithan Diniem 03:38, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Game Update links automated

Added code to automate the game update links. Now the three links will update monthly, but only once an update for the current month has been created. Therefor, February 1st the links will still say January/December/November. Once an updates page for February has been made, the links will automatically update to say February/January/December. It also will accommodate for year changes, so next new years it wont go outta wack. The ONLY way this will break is if no update pages are made after more than one month. If needed, I could probably make a way for it to cover a set number of update-less months, but I think the need for that is highly unlikely. This will remove the issue where the main page is behind (like it is now... hint hint). Also admins wont be needed to be bothered to update the main page just to update these 3 links.--Neithan Diniem 00:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

ok so why did john remove it?- Zesbeer 03:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Jon didn't remove it, I instead made it more compact. --JonTheMon 03:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Honestly didn't know bout that parser... Are you certain it still functions the same? If so... Dang, I still got a lot to learn about wikicode I guess... Perchance, why are you against their automation? I figured it would be for the best considering that it is now January and the main page still links from November and before. This would reduce unnecessary work for the admins.--Neithan Diniem 04:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

It's actually back to November again rather than still. Auron accidentally changed it when he removed the Wintersday decorations. I'll update manually for now (if someone doesn't beat me to it), till we're all sure about the automatic thing (I'm personally in favor, but I'd like to hear Poke certify that it won't accidentally break anything). - Tanetris 05:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Well I haven't tested Jon's improvements, but it should work. It uses an #ifexist parser to look for a [[Game update:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}]] page. If such a page does not exist, it will use the previous month as the "update month," linking the first link to that month's update page. The other 2 links go off of the first, using it to determine what month they should display. Years are correct by a #expr >= parser. That returns a 0 or 1, and if 0 it displays the previous year. The only months it would return 0 are January and February. So pretty much it should function perfectly, but I guess we all know how finicky the wiki can be at times. Only way I can think of that it could break is if there are no updates for over a month, in which case a red link would appear in the list. That, or if some of the code gets lost.--Neithan Diniem 05:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I also dont mean to blow my own horn, but in the above section I also thought of a way to ease the switching over of main page themes (this is in little relation to the error in reverting from the Wintersday theme). However, it does basically turn the main page into a template, so anyone checking the source of the main page would only see about 4 lines of text. Not sure if that would be exactly desirable. It would also require the creation of 2 pages, both protected from unauthorized edits. One would be the template's code, the other is a child page that gets called into the code to reduce repetitive code lines (also makes the page's menu boxes all have the same color scheme, so any alternating color themes would need a second child page made =/). The edit copy would then be used to suggest updates to the template then, and any such theme updates would need to be converted to fit into the template's coding. Other then that, this editcopy page would function just the same as it is now.--Neithan Diniem 05:42, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I personally would prefer something more compact. I don't like having all that on the mainpage. Possibly make it into a template that is just transcluded. It seems bulky to me, and is going to make it that much more difficult for others to make suggested changes. -- Wyn talk 06:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Hows that?--Neithan Diniem 15:45, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Zaishen Challenge quests

On each mission or boss's page who is predicted to be ZM/ZB/ZC soon, it should say 'This mission/boss/PvP thing is predicted to be the Zaishen mission/boss/PvP thing on XXth XXXXX.', according to Daily activities. This would be very useful for me and others.--86.164.135.100 17:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Or just go to these pages (linked to in each of their subsequent parent pages) to see their set cycle: Zaishen Mission/cycles, Zaishen Bounty/cycles, Zaishen Combat/cycles.--Neithan Diniem 18:00, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Having that information on each of those pages would put a too high load onto the server. There is no good way to do this with a wiki, so you will need to use the already available pages to get get that information. poke | talk 21:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Canthan New Year

its been announced and I made the changes on the events page, needs to be put on main [= Beleeth 01:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Embark Beach link

The Embark Beach link in the Player vs. Player section of Main Page should be removed (it has already been removed in Main Page/editcopy), since it is already listed in the Updates, news and events section of Main Page and Embark Beach isn't even a PvP feature. --Silver Edge 21:56, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, and from the moment embark beach comes out it should be in the PvE section. But wat about Zaishen Elite or menagerie? They arn't really PvP either imo. --RhoninSoren 20:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Because of the PvP isles? --Musha 00:54, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I think due to the location, anything on the Isles would fall under the PvP section of the Main Page. Otherwise, the PvE section would be huge in comparison.--Neithan Diniem 05:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah i was nitpicking but i do have a point imho. but it's best in PvP because it's in the battle isles --RhoninSoren 14:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Overall, The PvP area could better be classified as the "Competitive area." Mostly everything there is a type of competition, be it directly or indirectly. Combat-wise, there is Versus combat like the RA, Codex, HA, and Alliance battles, and also Cooperative combat like the Zaishen Missions. Support-wise there is The Menagerie to expand the available pets in PvP, the Training Isles to help new players, and the Guild Halls to coordinate PvP tactics and battles. They all are PvP oriented, and Embark Beach would fall under the support section. Embark Beach is a way to assist players to get through PvE missions easier, thus permitting another way to access better skills and equipment usable in PvP (that is stretching it, I know, but it fits the pattern none the less).--Neithan Diniem 04:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I think the fact that EB is in the Battle Isles shouldn't matter so much. The main page categorises content by mode of play, not by geography; we don't have separate boxes for Tyria, Cantha and Elona. Because a PvP-only char can't get into the Beach, it doesn't really make much sense from this viewpoint to put it under "Player vs Player". I've changed the page to reflect this; however feel free to change it back if you disagree. -- Hong 02:48, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

why is it under co-op missions that makes less since then where the link was before.- Zesbeer 23:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Because it grants access to all co-op missions? — Why 15:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

yea that was a derp derp moment for meh for some reason i read co-op and thought of Challenge missions and was like wut then i woke up from bizarre o world and found i was wrong and forgot to strike out what i wrote.- Zesbeer 17:58, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Old ascalonian

since on the gw2 wiki there is a template of new krytan and they are going to use it on 1 april. could we do the same here with old ascalonian? --RhoninSoren 20:46, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

what?- Zesbeer 20:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

this is the discussion and this is the template. runes found here --RhoninSoren 21:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Add Zaishen Vanquish to Latest in-game activities

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Previously Unsigned 23:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Might as well add the presearing dailies while we're at it. --Lania 00:05, 04 March 2011 (UTC)

And somebody with permission please remove Embark Beach from upcoming featuresIndigo121 01:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Might I suggest putting something together here? --Rainith 02:40, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Still, a day passed and Vanquish isn't yet in Main page. I think it really should be added, it's just like the other 3 zaishen quests, but it requires vanquish. Right ? Respectfully Magnum 12:29, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree, should add Vanguard Annihilation too. Ramei Arashi 16:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Vanguard Annhilation was called Vanguard Bounty today in Pre-searing for Utini Wupwup Druakian 17:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Would it make more sense aesthetically to have the Vanguard quest below Nicholas Sandford? That way they'd be organized by Pre-searing -> Core -> Beyond. Just a thought. 129.161.32.224 21:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I guess you do have a point there; fixed. poke | talk 21:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Cool! :D 128.113.201.222 02:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm guessing this isn't the right place to write this, but I don't know where else to put it, so... there's something wrong with the ZVanquish part of the Latest in-game activities, as it is currently 16:11 UTC and the page still shows Ice Cliff Chasms as the current ZVanquish (I have cleared the cache, and the same thing happened yesterday as well). --weby [TALK] @ 16:12, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Should be fixed now.. poke | talk 21:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

pve and news

no thanks on the switch of locations imho.- Zesbeer 03:22, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I just alphabetised it all by title, although I swapped the latest in-game activities back to where it normally is, because I think it's just better there. Feel free to change the headers around as to how you see fit.

EDIT: I changed it for you. Is that better suited your tastes? -- Lacky 08:23, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

yes thank you.- Zesbeer 09:11, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Continued chat here. -- Lacky 14:35, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Monthly Tonics

I am not a great editor so I can not directly propose this, but I suggest you add to the monthly section of the current events area the monthly tonic that drops from the Ziashen Chest, it IS after all a monthly event. The Savior 18:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I've been thinking the same thing but I don't have a strong opinion about it. -- Kirbman 01:23, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Support Forum Link

https://forum.guildwars.com/forum I don't see it on either the suggestion or the actual page, so I figure it should probably be added. Likely somewhere around the community area. Lillium 14:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

May have to turn it into an internal link some how, before adding it to the site. If I could gather more information. I'd create a page, link it there and then add that to here. I don't know where else that it may need to be added. Kaisha 16:52, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

see here looks like we are still discussing what to do with them.- Zesbeer 21:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Add newest HM quest to "this month"

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I propose that we add the latest/newest HM quest to "this month," something like:

This month:

Flux effect: [etc]

Newest hard mode quest: [blah]

This should be close-enough-for-wiki-work...unless it turns out that we start seeing HM quests introduced more often than once every three weeks. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:56, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

eh i don't think we are going to see one every month.- Zesbeer 21:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

well any other idea on how we could get these quests more known? 74.196.164.136

A link could be added beside "Quests" in the "Player vs. Environment" section of the Main Page, like this. --Silver Edge 02:45, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

How about changing this month to Other; that way the link is prominent in the latest activities area, but we don't imply how often. (I don't think it's that critical that flux effect be listed as this month; the flux article explains when it changes). — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 02:59, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I don’t think we should include that quest here. Partly because the activities list is simply long enough already (and takes up a lot of space), but also because the quest is part of a game update (and is documented there) and because the quests are not mutually exclusive, unless the other things. While of the other quests (or effects) only one is available at a time, the HM quest is there permanently. If anything, it rather belongs to the updates section of the main page. poke | talk 10:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

The idea is to call attention to something that is otherwise easily lost. I don't think the activities list (with or without the latest HM quest) is anything close to too long; it's exactly as long as it needs to be. However, I would support including it in latest updates instead. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:04, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

It's not too long based on its content but too long from a visual perspective. If you look at the main page, you can easily see this. poke | talk 23:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

placement of GuildWars beyond

As also stated elsewhere, the current development of GuildWars beyond is in such a state that it is more existing content then future content (WiK and HoN done, 1/3th of WoC is released, bout the future content a lot is unknown and even uncertain). The current placement on the mainpage is wrong imo. But, where else to put it? In the Player versus Envirement section should be an apropiate place. But then you could get a discussion why GW Beyond is there and eg bonus mission pack isn't. Even the campaigns aren't named there directly. So I would like to request to comment bout this. To give my proposal: Above this is a discussion bout putting the latest HM quest in the latest in-game activity box. I would propose to put in that place a section called latest content update. At the time of the release of the HM quest villany of Galrath, that one would be listed there. Now it would be Winds Of Change. Basicly it would be to express what the latest buzz is. To do so we should agree on certain things like what can be use and what not. My proposal would be to list anything that makes us all excited (based on consensus), is new in the way that it wasn't in the game before. Sometimes maybe multiple things could be listed cause of split in concensus (like eg after the march update, a lot of people where excited bout the new pre-quests, visable by an huge increse on pre searing population, but also a lot of buzz was bout the 7-hero's update). So what do you think? please comment on my suggestion or propose an alternative (or even better: do both!). Rumian 08:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I think there are two separate issues: (1) there's upcoming Beyond (which fits the current placement) and (2) there's the well established bits of Beyond...and other new features, which we don't highlight on the main page (and perhaps we should).

Elsewhere, we've argued that Beyond is basically its own campaign. Therefore, I propose that:

• We add a Beyond Logo to the top section (currently occupied by logos of P/F/NF and EotN).
• We add a line underneath Game updates called, Latest features and link it to a page that highlights the most interesting changes (which might include anything from Embark Beach to HM quests to Beyond to... ). The criteria might be: if your best friend was away from the game for 6 months, which 3-5 features would you tell them about to get them to return?

— Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 08:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

+1 we need this on the wiki. --The Holy Dragons 09:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I thought bout a 5th logo myself. But one thing I've learned bout wiki's is: "if you can't make it yourself, don't propose it". I'm terrible myself with logo's but if anyone is willing to make one, I agree to it. I checked the official guildwars site. And they don't have an official logo. So if someone is making one, I would suggest something like the nightfall logo with the GuildWars traditional logo small and the text Beyond in the GW2 style (and so making a logo that gives the feel of the transition between GW and GW2). So I mean the shadow style, like the proffessions on the gw2 wiki but then with letters. I still also think that the Beyond page needs to be altered and made better. My proposal was rejected, but now we end up with a somewhat simular concept, but with needs expanding tags. If we are going to link to it from a mainpage logo I think it has to be a very good page. Having said that, I agree to TEF's proposals. Rumian 07:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

So someone with skills in photoshop should make an image. Theres a reason I suck with such activities.. File:User Chieftain Alex Guild Wars Beyond logo.png--File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.pngChieftain Alex 11:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I took a few minutes to throw a logo together based on the logo seen at the top of the Winds of Change site. The paint swash is there to give a bit of a Guild Wars 2 aesthetic. Sounds Risky | 20:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really comfortable with us using what is essentially fan art on the MP, but if we're going to do it, I think we should be doing it with the least possible "creative input" on our part. Hardly the most fun option, I know, but it's a bit of a slippery slope once we start allowing people interpret things like this in their own way. I would suggest the Guild Wars logo with a simple "Beyond" underneath using the font used for the HotN and WoC logos on on this page (as this seems to be the closest thing to an "official" Beyond font. Maybe a little embellishment on the text, like on the other existing logos, but no further than that. --Santax (talk · contribs) 22:39, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

agreed with santax, as we have already seen all the logos for gw1 have the "official" lettering for guildwars and then the sub name.- Zesbeer 01:54, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with using the retail game logo. 1) It isn't used in the official Beyond materials, and 2) People will misinterpret Beyond as being a retail product with a logo like that sitting next to the others. The font they're using for the Guild Wars text is the same font as the one used in-game for larger text, Friz Quadrata. The Beyond text most likely uses the same font they're using on the "In Kryta" portion of the War in Kryta logo they have here. Sounds Risky | 04:12, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

well i asked Stephane to inquire about a official logo sooo...- Zesbeer 05:27, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Any news from Stephane bout an official logo? Further, I changed the copy/edit page with the Latest Features link and created a basic page behind the new link. I think that a short list will do, cause I expect most people click directly on the latest feature listed below. In the future, we can also add the older latest feature for historical reference.Rumian 11:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

"We don't have one for the moment. If we manage to make one at some point, I'll make sure that you get it. --Stephane Lo Presti talk 16:39, 13 July 2011 (UTC)"- Zesbeer 01:47, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) a thought i just had: put the winds of change logo up seeing as that is the current campaign of beyond, and will be for a wile. then change it when we get to the next part of beyond or when a beyond logo is made by anet. also if i had to pick i would pic the logo Chieftain Alex made- Zesbeer 06:45, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

So, is it just me or does adding that winds of change logo throw off the balance of the 3 columns (right is smaller than normal, and left is bigger than the middle)? I find it is extra apparent when the window is somewhere around 1000px --JonTheMon 12:26, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

^This. Someone has also commented the same in main page talk space. I am at 1280px and right column seems much to narrow in proportion to the other two columns. Also this seems like a strange time to include the Beyond logo as it is the only one that isn't Halloween themed. Suggest removing until after the event. Robdalf 18:10, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

I think the beyond logo is fine, but it should be protected against editing since it is on the mainpage, e.g. I could put something hilariously inappropriate on the main page of the wiki. --File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.pngChieftain Alex 10:33, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Winds of Change editcopy

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I've created a version of the main page to go with WoC here, similar to what I did with the War in Kryta. There are no problems with it or anything, it could probably be put on the MP right away in the meantime, but there are a few things I'd like to put to the community since with this one I had a less clear idea of what I should be going for:

• Colour: I went with the more subdued blue colour of the Aegis of Unity to go with the whole "purity" thing, but I'm wondering whether I should have gone with the reds of the Dragonguard as it is more representative of Cantha as a whole.
• Icons: I'm generally happy with the icons, although obviously I'm always open to suggestion, there's very likely better ones that could be used out there. In particular I'm wondering whether there are better icons to go in the box at the top.
• Text: for WiK the headings in all the boxers were tweaked, so "Latest in-game activities" became "Royal bounties" or something similar, and when it was White Mantle there was a little line at the bottom next to the editcopy text saying something like "seditious suggestions to the editcopy will be severely punished". I'm having some trouble thinking of an "angle" from which to approach this page; a Ministry of Purity-controlled MP perhaps? And how would that alter the headers and such?

For reference, my original vision for the White Mantle MP can be found here, and after discussions and the progression of the updates the final WiK MP can be found here. I've laid down the groundwork, hoping the wiki can help me out a little here :) --Santax (talk · contribs) 03:38, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

The current color makes the outside border jarring. I also think the WiK icons fit better with the overall color scheme than the contrast colors do in this proposal. → Add a background tint to the box and perhaps stick to a single skill icon (perhaps one of the costumes).

For a quote, how about this from Zei Ri, "The Ministry of Purity has fought tirelessly against the Afflicted, ...would you lend Cantha your aid once more? Afflicted have been found ...I go there to face them, and I would be privileged to have you stand at my side."

Also, if the idea is to call attention to WoC, then (while the special announcement remains), let's either remove the Welcome message... or at least shrink it so it's less prominent/important than the WoC teaser.

(And thanks for putting this together.) — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:37, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that the white Purity theme is the best, I'm thinking that a Dragonguard theme will be better. Also, I agree with TEF, the entire welcome message can probably be removed for the time being or at least make the WoC stand out more.–alistic 07:09, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

So, will the WoC theme be implemented before or after its over? ^_^ --Falconeye 20:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

At the moment, it won't be implemented at all because there's no consensus about what theme (and images) to use and (as I read it) not all that much interest in it. That's not ideal, but that beats going forward with something that doesn't have substantial community support. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:35, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Halloween theme

we need to que up a Halloween theme lets figure it out now so we are not scrabbling come late October.- Zesbeer 22:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

this^- Zesbeer 02:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Anything wrong with re-using last year's? I'm okay with that (now that we are scrambling). (Also: my apologies to Zesbeer: I kept meaning to reply when Z first posted the suggestion...so that we wouldn't have to scramble.) – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:02, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

if i had more time i would gather all the themes and then just set the shit up my self but i don't. i also have no problem with using last years. the other major problem is that there is no admins to switch it. ideally we would have them auto change and rotate between a few good themes from years past. but that's a lot of work that i dont know how to do. speaking of which we need to start thinking about wintersday as well.- Zesbeer 21:07, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) so i updated the theme to Halloween ie last years theme...- Zesbeer 23:04, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

thank you. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 00:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Feel the love of Gaile for your work on the Halloween design :) poke | talk 23:55, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Game Updates

Both this month and last month I have added the missing pages that make the game updates show up on the main page for the current month. I don't have enough wiki-fu to know if this could be done in a better way as these missing pages are just "glue" with no real content of their own. Robdalf 15:33, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

There's no way to automatically generate an article using wikicode alone (someone could write a script that could be run monthly, but that seems like nearly as much trouble for just the one article). – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. And now I made a trifecta. Robdalf 23:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Featured article typo

Sorry, I couldn't see how to propose this change on the main page.

The featured article says the Mad King "had a spout with Qwytzylkak" and I think it's meant to say "had a spat"

Redhame 20:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Wintersday Theme

wintersday is just around the corner (esp now that thanksgiving is done.) unless someone comes up with a new theme by the 15th we will just be using last years theme. - Zesbeer 20:54, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

and done.- Zesbeer 22:59, 15 December 2011 (UTC)