Talk:Mursaat Token

Drop research

Mode	Dropped by	Location	Signature
N	Jade Bow, Mursaat Elementalist	Ring of Fire	MSorglos 14:48, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
N	Mursaat Necromancer, Mursaat Monk	Abaddon's Mouth	MSorglos 06:31, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
N	Jade Bow	Abaddon's Mouth	ab.er.rant 22:28, 6 May 2007 (EDT)
H	Jade Bow and Mursaat Mesmer	Ice Floe	Zemmy 00:02, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
H	Jade Bow	Iron Mines of Moladune	Slagleg 15:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
N	Jade Armor	Iron Mines of Moladune	Amanda 16:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
N	Jade Armor, Mursaat Elementalist	Iron Mines of Moladune	Xypher 03:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
N	Mursaat Mesmer	Ice Floe	Jon Will 11:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
N	Mursaat Elementalist	Ice Caves of Sorrow	Undouble 05:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
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Expert salvage research

Material	Amount	Signature
Pile of Glittering Dust	8 units / twice	ninestories 13:19, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Pile of Glittering Dust	6	ninestories 01:45, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Pile of Glittering Dust	6 units / 10%	--Sushihammer (talk) 21:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Pile of Glittering Dust	7 units / 60%	--Sushihammer (talk) 21:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Pile of Glittering Dust	8 units / 30%	--Sushihammer (talk) 21:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Pile of Glittering Dust	8 units / 3x	-Chieftain Alex 19:23, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Pile of Glittering Dust	7 units / 1x	-Chieftain Alex 19:23, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Token's Purpose

You guys haven't read the lore about the Last Mursaat on the GW2 wiki? the tokens are probably magical artefacts, and as the story says, when the mursaat came to an end at the end of the prophecies campaign, one extremely powerful mursaat lord divided himself across seven of these, much like Voldemort did in Harry Potter. i Believe these things are that kind of artefact. Keppe888

What are you talking about? Vili 点 10:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned, I believe this token is the mursaat's currency, similar to how other clans/tribes/groups have their own "kournan tokens" or whatever. Just like other race's tokens, they only drop one of the coins at a time, and it would also explain why the jade constructs carry it.Natso 15:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Jotun Pelts are Jotun money? Now that's a killer economy! *rimshot* On a more serious note, I fail to see why constructs animated for the sheer purpose of performing menial tasks below the Mursaat (melee combat, how plebeian.) would have money. - HeWhoIsPale 16:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe they're coin-operated? Applecup 16:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, they are useless now, so I will sell all of mine to merchant. Ah well. --Burning Freebies 16:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I just salvage them for dust.--Justice 07:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Or, maybe the Jade Constructs are like our banks--- the "money" goes in, the "banker" gets a bonus, and the "money" is never seen again!!Undouble 05:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

mabye the tokens are the Mursaat / Constructs "Soul" ---anomyous

Or maybe they're just drops that the game designers decided to put in and didn't really give it as much thought as everyone else ---gengar bangar

Or maybe they added them just to make hundreds of people wonder what the hell they are :P --173.48.123.225 20:08, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

They "could" be the Mursaat version of "dilithium crystals"-----after all, levitation ain't "free"-- the energy needs to come from somewhere--and we DO see them? in use as "ether seal" guardians.68.59.37.249 22:49, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

In Sovjet Shiverpeaks, Mursaat and Jade Constructs are dropped by these! Paddymew 16:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

It could be the same idea as Eldar spirit stones[1] in WH40K: when an Eldar is killed, its soul is encased in a gem to prevent it from being devoured by Slaanesh. Some of the gems are used to power some of their war machines, much like the jade armors, which would explain the token drops from the armors. Also, it would be far from the first time one fantasy franchise borrowed from another.Ash Dragonshadow 01:02, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Magic?

They seem to be some type of magic source, but if there are no collectors for them it is confusing what there use is... This leads me to beileve that they are "souls" for the mursaat this could also be money... The evedence is very scarce. --Necromancer Shea Mo--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:66.168.49.72 (talk).

There are collectors for them; Read the page.- TheRave (talk) 17:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

THat guy was only for "Farewell to Gaile" event

look Closly

anyone think that in the icon of this token that there is a picture of abbaddon inside? --Robot 19:15, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

it does seem that way... who knows. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 21:34, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd doubt that, Abaddon and his Titans being the Mursaat's adversaries and all. --Arduin 22:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think there was another discussion somewhere about this. I doubt it too but the Mursaat are still a huge mystery Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 22:43, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Dont some of the mursaat have multiple eyes, or at least armor that appears that way? Maybe its just a picture of one of them. ( hehe, if so, maybe these tokens are merely mementos of their mothers XD... lol, seriously though)--Neithan Diniem 05:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh god - I love that idea! This merciless race of spellcasters are really all mommy's boys/girls at heart, frequently carrying a token of their mother's image to remind them of her whilst not at 'home' *dies laughing* 92.0.140.91 13:40, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I doubt that it is Abaddon - as I doubt that his entire appearance (or at least his face) was conceived at the time - though that is just my own opinion. As for Neithan - the Jade Armors have a very close appearance to Abaddon - but the Mursaat themselves do not. The Mursaat are closer to humanity than anything else - only difference being those "wings" and their three giant toes - and skin tone. -- Konig/talk 14:45, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Then maybe the relation of its appearance to a jade armor + color fits in with the lore that these tokens are used in the making of their armor constructs.

I think that face you're referring to is just a mursaat mask or the face of the "mursaat ruler" and that it is, in fact, Mursaat currency.

Personally, i hope the Mursaat will make a comeback to GW2, and be more involved then just "the evil race of evil" --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 94.111.119.247 (talk).

The lore on the tokens from Nicholas hints to them being more than simple currency. And they will make a re-appearance eventually in GW2. It has been confirmed over 2 years ago by Linsey. ;) -- Konig/talk 22:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

WOh woh woh... I'm not making any claim to know what's going on behind the scenes in the lore department, but from personal experience story lines and things like that can be boiling in someone's mind for years, even years before anyone has the slightest clue a game will be made. In most cases I think games are made for the sake of a fantasy, not the other way around. From certain things I've picked up since Factions it seems that the entire plot (up to EOTN at least) was figure out well in advance (while prophecies was still big). Considering Abaddon is the main antagonist of the entire first series, I would not be surprised if they had a rough idea of what he was going to look like, or at least mental concepts (purple, 6 eyes, whatever). Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 21:09, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Why would Abaddon's looks be needed to be known during the making of Prophecies? I believe I've seen somewhere, though I cannot recall where at the moment (I think the Making of Nightfall dvd from the NF CE), that the third game was only planned to be the "wrapping things up and connecting the previous two chapters together" game. Meaning Abaddon wasn't much more than a possibility before they started working on Nightfall. Though I cannot be certain - but at most, I highly doubt that they had him intending to look like a Jade Armor from when Prophecies was made - especially seeing how we see many many different versions of Abaddon, even what became the Word of Madness was an early Abaddon concept art. I think - though it would require some research on my part (time which I don't really want to spare for a rather pointless debate) - that an artist or two who made a concept art of Abaddon and were not around for Prophecies could be found. That would rather cement the idea that Abaddon's looks were not final. Especially seeing how only one concept art looks remotely like what we have now (all others were giant-statue like versions, those that I personally like the most being more Margonite like than Jade Armor like). -- Konig/talk 22:44, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) It was just pointed out to me, the design within the token is the same as the Ether Seal design. -- Konig/talk 21:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Nice catch! I added this to the notes section. Markus Clouser 20:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Farming

By the by, whats the best way to acquire these in large amounts?--Neithan Diniem 16:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I find the Ring of Fire mission to be an excellent place due to large packs of mursaat awaiting you at the very start of it. M3G 16:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Abaddon's Mouth also works - as you have the Chimera of Intensity enchantment so even going without a full team, you're better off against them than elsewhere. -- Konig/talk 17:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)