Talk:Range

Sparrow 01:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Sparrow

Conflicting Information

The article states the following 3 things, which cannot all be true:

• Spell range is slightly larger (×1.2) than the Danger Zone.
• Shortbows and spears have the same range as spells on flat ground.
• Hornbows and recurve bows have a range of about 1.2 times the Danger Zone on flat ground.

Since we know that Shortbows (and spears maybe?) have range shorter than recurve bows (according to the Bows page), and theres three statements would put them all at equal range.

I'm not certain which one is wrong, my initial thought is that spells are really more like x1.0 the Aggro Bubble, but since I'm not at home I can't check easily. Thoughts? Ooom 23:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I've never been able to cast a spell on someone outside of my aggro bubble.

Spell range is definitely larger than the aggro bubble, as I've tested it numerous times to prove to unbelieving friends. Unless I'm mistaken shortbows and spears use earshot, which is almost, if not exactly, the range of the aggro bubble. 98.192.38.51 18:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I finally got some time (and motivation) to actually run the experiment. My results is that there seem to be essentially three range distances:

Long Range	Medium Range	Short Range
Longbow	Hornbow	Shortbow
Flatbow	Recurve	Spear
	Spell
Ranger Spirit	Staff

Note that my method was essentially to walk straight back a ways, then attack the barrel forcing the character to run forward until in range. So the disambiguation for me is that spells have the same range as staffs, hornbows and recurves - not shortbows and spears. I will change the range page to reflect this. Ooom 15:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

When you attack/cast from out of range, you'll run in a little closer to the target than you need to. Just wanted to point that out since your ranges look a little short. You can take a step of two back to see how far you can go before you need to run up again. --Valshia 17:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Could be - I certainly didn't test that - it is clear however that there are three ranges - I suppose I could spend more time trying to find the exact right point given your comment - but I'm really too lazy. Ooom 17:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ooom, you made such a nice table I thought I'd add the range of the ranger spirits to it, hope you don't mind ^-^ - Byakko 00:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

1 thing... why did u need hero's to test this? o.o--Neil2250 20:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Same reason you put an apostrophe in "Heroes". 174.156.39.98 01:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Fugliest page ever on GWW?

If you agree, vote yes, if you disagree, vote yes. I suggest merging this eyesore into Area of Effect, because there is a large overlap anyway and AoE has a far less eye-cancery layout. Roland of Gilead talk 02:02, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

i like it--83.79.135.139 14:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Backsword's changes

I'm not against revamping this page (it does look kinda fugly and badly-formatted), but there's not much point in doing so if you make the page less useful in the process. If you're going to make changes, make sure you retain all the useful information and don't leave the page riddled with spelling and grammar errors. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 17:25, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Summarizing Range and AoE info

Would it make sense to combine Range and AoE, since they overlap in information? Here's a summary of both articles. (I do not recommend that we use the table alone, but that it can be used to supplement either or both articles).  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 06:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Summary table of Range and AoE

Range	Vs. Danger Zone	Applies to...	Other notes
Adjacent Melee Touch	0%	Spells, melee weapons, other skills
Adjacent	11%	Self-targeting skills
Nearby	16%	near the target
In the area	22%	Wards, Wells, most AoE spells	The largest range for offensive spells.
Half-range	60%	Half-ranged skills
Earshot	100%	Shouts, chants
Projectile (Short)	100%	Shortbows, Spears	Affected by relative height
Spell	120%	Spells Staves, Wands	Includes projectile spells
Projectile (Standard)	120%	Hornbows, Recurve bows	Affected by relative height
Projectile (Long)	135%	Flat- and Longbows Ranger bow attacks Paragon & Assassin skills	Affected by relative height
Spirit	135%	Active spirits	Affected by relative height
Soul	250-300%	Soul Reaping
Spirit (Passive)	270%	Passive spirits	Affected by relative height
Party	378%	Party spells, maintained enchantments	Maintained enchantments are dropped outside this range

Maximum range

So, longbow range is a mere 112.5 feet. Does anyone else find this a little short?--173.55.48.60 05:57, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Ive always have... Urgoz's effective longbow attack range is roughly the size of the radar. --Falconeye 20:53, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Gwinches

Oh noes, the Gwinch has stolen all the Wintersday In July presents! (°o°) Durp da durp (talk) 22:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)