Talk:The Last Hierophant

Quest difficulty

The difficulty on this quest is Elite not Master. I think we need a new type! --Lemming 01:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Quest log

I didn't notice any accept or decline dialoge or option to pick. It seems the quest is added and accepted automatically. Probably should be added to notes, especially since it's one of the few if any that do this. Yukiko 07:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

So this quest is immediately accepted after A Time for Heroes is Completed?

No, it's immediatly accepted once you set foot in the Dungeon. -- Broodling 02:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you face Duncan again right away?

After you've defeated Duncan and completed the quest, can you come back and face Duncan again right away? Or do you have to go through the first four stages everytime? What if you keep the quest? Thanks Spiderman 05:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering the same - Hell Nirvana 19:21, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

No, unfortunately not --88.68.198.177 20:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

That's a smashing walkthrough!

requirements

So what requirements are there? i cant get past Frida Unmoven, unless i travel with some1 else? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.187.84.173 (talk).

YOu have to have beaten EotN --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.229.191.71 (talk).

Walkthrough

Can we seriously get a more through walkthrough? I cleared the Thommis/Stormweaver level rather easily but I simply can't get through the ridiculous spawn groups of the other 2 levels, especially Forgewight's level. - HeWhoIsPale 15:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I added a few comments from memory. I hope that it helps. I usually H&H, but to do Forgewight, I needed to join a group with the specified roles. -- Alaris 15:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I am tired of fools gathering for VS-Shit drop, instead of Slavers Exile DUnngeon, Situation was a lot better when ursan wasn't nerfed. Now its hard to find a grp for Slavers exile.

Well, that's what farming groups do, Slaver's is the new fav farming location, even CoF farming was dead last time I checked. But with costly titles, not farming is just not an option I want to consider. -- Alaris 19:02, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

The Ursan nerf i dont mind all that much I do all of then bosses without ursan, I use H&H. But one thing that i thing arenanet took over the top is reducing all the attributes to 0. They try to avoid the grind on getting the title; but now the skill it self is a grind to use. Ill stick with my build; I take 0 dmg from all HM or NM and do 50+dmg with normal hits plus PI and 3 necros, Ursan is obsolete to me.^^--24.92.214.16 19:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if it is an error or not, but it looks like the last part, Duncan the Black, determines if the quest goes in the Hard Mode book or Normal Mode book. I was able to do Justiciar Thommis, Rand Stormweaver, Selvetarm, and Forgewight in Normal Mode. I then did Duncan the Black in Hard Mode, because I had trouble getting help. The game shows I completed the quest in Hard Mode, so I spent the 100g to have it show up in my Hard Mode Master Dungeon Guild book. I also took the quest when I was in Normal Mode too; might be a easy way to help fill the HM Master Dungeon book. – Mystic Witch 22:57, 06 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, a lot of people use that trick. Not sure if it's a bug or allowed exploit or design decision. It makes more sense that it would be changed to having to complete all parts in hard mode to count as hard mode. -- Alaris 02:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

This looks somewhat easy...

Not super easy...but it doesn't look maddeningly difficult...Taka Ragranok 03:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It isn't impossibly hard... My wife and I did it with heroes. The trick on Duncan was to use Swap to move all the spirits away. Once they're all out of range, he's a piece of cake... Relatively speaking. --RoyHarmon 04:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I haven't done it yet on HM but allready I'm wondering what the rit upgrade did with duncan...84.26.144.104 21:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

He's relatively anti-climactic. It's like Gradius, you gotta fight teeth and nail to get to him, but he's a push over. LunchboxOctober 05:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Overhaul

Giving Duncan the Black's level a massive overhaul. The section starting with "It is recommended NOT to fight with the Stone Summits" is misleading and completely unnecessary. Did the dungeon in HM for the first time /w the guild a few days ago, and we actually expected the summit to be for the most part avoidable. We had a pretty good set of anti summit skills worked out from the other parts of the dungeon, but we decided to forgo them for more holy damage to deal with the undead popups we were warned of. Well, no sh*t wiki, the stone summit SHOULD be avoided, the problem is that there is a minimum of 5 summit mobs that will not be avoidable. --71.158.243.2 16:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC) --

Forgewight level

is incredibly difficult to hero, you can flag them all apart, and i'm a good monk but i cant keep up with extinguish and Breath of the GD. Any tips?74.37.182.28 00:51, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, I assume as a Monk you're used to being in the backline ... in this level I'd suggest to take the front. Have someone bond you, use Spellbreaker and move about 1/2 aggro circle from your group. Having a Mesmer with Power Block might come in handy as well as Winter. Now go before your group (1/2 aggro circle shold work), pull with a flatbow (long flight time allows you to change weapons and get ready) and when they come for you use Spell Breaker and once you have their full interest move slowly backward - thus balling them and pulling them into your group.79.216.202.142 17:40, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I found with heroes the best way to do it was with a Soul Twisting Rit. http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Rt/any_Soul_Twisting_Hero Just make sure you do not bring a MM hero. Pre cast spirits, Flag heroes back so YOU take the initial Nuke then take them off flag and nuke the eles before they nuke you. It can still go horribly wrong but it's night and day to doing it normally. Thomasuwoo 23:50, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Forgewight needs careful handling and I cannot beat it in HM. It's such a challenge surely he should drop an item called "Dropped Steel" or "Sheffield Steel" or even "The Anvil of Forgewight" that you can launch at enemy foes heads causing knockdown, daze and substantial damage. Shaft Saint Claire (talk) 09:07, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Master Dungeon Guide

For the Hard Mode MDG, do you only have to kill Duncan in hard mode to get the entry in it? Or do you need to beat all bosses HM?173.69.63.43 14:58, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Please read the General Tips section:You don't need to defeat all of the bosses in Hard Mode to get the Hard Mode page for the dungeon book, only Duncan. --CraigDC42 09:16, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Norn rep not rewarded - first time completion

I just completed this quest for the first time and was not rewarded any Norn reputation points. I remained at 147,614 pts (r9). --Combatter 13:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

You're past r8. See Norn rank and try again in HM. Tub 15:27, 1 May 2012 (UTC)