Talk:The Order

Elementalist Aziure

I disagree with being listed as order of the necromancers simply based on saying "Order" in one dialogue. She is clearly not a necro so makes no sense that she woul be in this guild. (Usaf1a8xx 21:48, 11 July 2010 (UTC))

She calls it the same that all the necromancers call it. It is merely called "the Order" denoting it to be a group of people. In fact, only she, Verata, and Morgan mention it the same. Muune never mentions it (nor is said to be in it, I wonder why it got put there), and Kasha called it "our order" - not capitalized. So really, unless there are two groups in Ascalon called "the Order" then Aziure is part of this Order - hence why I suggested moving it to [[the Order]]. -- Konig/talk 21:55, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit:Not to mention Aziure's line "Time, Life, Truth...Do you bring the Order new knowledge of any of these things?" is not dissimilar to what the Tyrian human necromancers claim to look into - the balance of life and death. Sorry, that's canthan necros. Tyrian necros are far more mysterious - though I think somewhere it was mentioned the balance in society (which assassins cover in cantha). -- Konig/talk 21:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Well since it is only ever called the "Order" and never "of Necromancers" I suggest this page title be changed to just "The Order" since Aziure is not a necro and it is never named as such. For all we know, it is an order of casters or some other order. The point is then that the Order is unnamed further to tag it as "of Necromancers". (Usaf1a8xx 01:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC))

Hence why I suggested the move. It was called of Necromancers because until I spotted Aziure's dialogue and made note of it, there were only necromancers known to be in it, so someone made the page like this thinking only necromancers were in it. -- Konig/talk 02:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Found a second place where Aziure mentions "the Order." -- Konig/talk 01:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

That doesn't appear to be a second place. I believe that is the one place they are talking about. 69.182.134.81 03:26, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Fistly, there would be "they" as it was me who brought up both cases, secondly, yes it is a second place. The first place is quoted above, the second place is the quest where she says "The Order has asked me to investigate the disciplines of Water Magic [...]". Both are in the same location, but are mentioned in two different places from her (normal dialogue and quest dialogue). -- Konig/talk 04:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

lol so are we every going to move this page? (Usaf1a8xx 04:59, 1 September 2010 (UTC))

Done. Bypassing redirects on other pages now. -- Konig/talk 05:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Should we consult John Stumme whether she was referring to the same order? - Reanimated X 21:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

It was before his - or anyone in the Live Team atm if I'm correct - time at Anet, so he'd have to go dig around. But technically, we always could have asked a dev. :P -- Konig/talk 21:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Kasha

Why is she a former member, I can't find anything stating she left the order...--Mark, het Beest 17:26, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Must of been an accidental move on my part. Unless I meant to put her into a "suspected" (since her dialogue doesn't capitalize "order"). -- Konig/talk 22:10, 30 December 2010 (UTC)