Talk:Wintersday 2008

Hats

Who wants four again this year? Last year seemed anticlimactic with only two. Granted, quality beats quantity, but 2006's hats were better also. --ennui 17:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Who knows, they could possibly do one set of hats. Drago 23:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

IMO we should just redirect to Wintersday for now. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 23:57, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

That'd be fine with me. -- Brains12 \ talk 00:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, so I fail to read talk pages :( -- Wyn 00:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Now add this page. It's been annopunced, and only 6 days left!--DAVA 08:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

And Counting!.... Btw, either way, I hope eveyone has a wonderful time at this years Wintersday Celebration. MystiLefemEle 11:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully they will focus on the quality of these hats rather than quantity. I didn't even bother with the ones from Halloween they were so awful. Foxysheri 18:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I hope you meant the wintersday 2007 hats.--DAVA 17:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

There will be two hats. One of them looks like a reindeer mask with tiny horns and a red nose. The other consists of a red crown, a green cap with dark green stripes and odd green ears. --numma_cway 15:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing you found it in the dat? --King Of Kamelott 01:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Well that would be the only source right now i think or he made it up. I don't mean he made this up but it's an option because this can't be 100% sure, ye know. - JoPeTalk 11:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

And i hope anet doesn't make the same mistake ever again in any event by making 4 hats available like at Wintersday 2006. Think about it: it takes ATLEAST 12 hours to get all 4! That's insane! - J.P.Talk 12:14, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

No, only 6 hours. Like in 2007 Kamadan finale will be 15minutes after the LA finale.- TheRave (talk) 12:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Just tried to get both hats. Didn't work for some reason... - J.P.Talk 08:51, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I cannot remember this delay of 15 minutes in the 4-mask Wintersday of 2006. --numma_cway 09:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Monster Drops

Doubt it if monsters drop Winter Gifts instead of CCS's this year. I'd loved Halloween, Special Treats Weekend and Pirate Day. Robert Batchelor 16:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes they are dropping more than CC Shards... MystiLefemEle 06:26, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Special surprise

u need to do 4 quests when winterday is coming and if u did them u will have Special surprise at Gwens garden what is it will be u think?

Either a holiday weapon or some odd consumable/summoning stone. --King Of Kamelott 20:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

It's a damn jingle bear that you cannot even tame....WTH!!!!76.4.185.160 21:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I like the jingle bear,I don't like the idea it's not charmable,involved in something else(or is it...?)...could we get more explanation please?

It was a bug. You can now charm the jinlgle bear. It does not become hostile while you charm it. It satarts at level 5 and I am not sure if it grows, but I doubt it. --CAJOS talk 00:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the Jingle Bear grows... MystiLefemEle 06:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

NEW GAME!!!!

everyone know how to play tag. How this games goes u can't have anythign in your hands to go in. Free for all and its 2.5minutes long. You have the following skills: dash,Side Step,"I Am Unstoppable!","You Move Like a Dwarf!",(New skill) !RANDOM Taunt!,I Will Survive!,(New skill) Here take this.

New skills that do what?

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Here take this (hands off flag) 1/4 activation time touch spell

Randome taunt (says a random saying that makes fun of someone)like (Try and catch me slow poke) recharge 30 seconds

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Elites War:"You're All Alone!"

Rang:Escape

Monk:Mark of Protection (but prevents next enemy skill used on you)

mes:Fevered Dreams

ele:Gust (just knowns them down)

Nec:Weaken Knees

Der: Vow of Silence (you can't be touched for around 3 seconds recharge then is 30)

sin: Palm Strike

Rit: Wanderlust

Par: "Incoming!"

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Ok here is the break down u and 4 others are all trying to not get tag der.

Everyone has a flag and whoever gets taged first gets the flag all other Vanquishes. every 30 second whoever has the flag dies and loses simple right. NOPE it restarts the flags it will then say round 2 and repeats of cours numbers go up.

Every time u get passed a round you get 5 gamer points and 1 shard or something. Plus 50 b faction.

Winner gets 100 b faction at the end. Plus 10 shards.

Finally make it a small area like the norn 1 vs 1 but have 5 places to enter.

PLZ LISTEN!--The-Big-Cheese 22:47, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Pardon me sir but what the hell are you talking about? --King Of Kamelott 01:32, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to have to agree with King Of Kamelott on this subject. Please clarify. Are you suggesting a Wintersday event? If you are, I think you may want to reconsider where this idea is posted. --Apocalypse Riser 01:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Need Clarification on Snowball ATS

I've started to put together a list of people to form a guild for the new Snowball ATS, and I'd like a few clarifications if possible.

• Do we even need a guild?
• Do guild members need to be in the guild for so long before the tournament begins?
• What is required to enter the tournament (# of guild members, guests, etc; tournament tokens)?
• Will this function similarly to the current ATS: play rounds for qualifier points and then play in an end-of-season tournament?
• What kinds of rewards can we expect per win? Will there be Gamer points or not?

I've never actually run a guild or participated in an ATS before, so if general rules apply, point those out. Otherwise, "ATS-style" sounds like it leaves room for differences between this and the true ATS. Shayne Hawke 01:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure, actually. Perhaps you could ask this at the game question area? Your question might see a little more traffic there. MiraLantis 08:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks more like a general-question-about-the-general-game area there. If I don't get a response in a day or two here, I'll consider asking on Regina's page. Shayne Hawke 22:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect times

UTC times are wrong - utc is ahead 8hrs as show on guildwars.com ( never used edit before ) --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:86.132.148.60 (talk).

It's fixed now. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 01:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

There was an inconsistency still in the finale table - I changed it to reflect the 8 hour time zone difference --Iant 20:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

New Game?!

I don't sure if it means to official game, but "In Lion's Arch, Kamadan, Droknar's Forge, and Ascalon City, you can try your hand at distributing gifts to the children, or if you're feeling grentch-y, you can try to destroy the gifts before the children get them", it can be that there is new game?--Itay Alon 06:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

No, this is where you pick up gifts and run them to the children before the grentches catch you. It's a repeat. -- Wyn 08:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

The second part of the quote sounds as if you can turn into a grench and destroy other players that are running with the gift? Unless i'm mistaken. >< 『♥LadyTemp♥』 03:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

New features, yay!

I'm glad they put new content, I'm really looking forward to the new Ebon Vanguard quests. --Life Infusion «T» 16:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

2 items

1. Anet, why not make this event like 3 day? Would make it more usual for European players to get all 2-4 hats.

   I'm removing the uncertain banner at the top. Had an in-game convo with Gaile, and it's going on what-so-ever. If you undo it, please say why ;)--DAVA 20:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Main reason for it being that the event hasn't begun yet. Things may go buggy from now until the release, and we don't really document "what will be", but "what is or what happened". With the notice above, people can't blame us if something doesn't go as planned :).--Fighterdoken 20:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Thanks.--DAVA 05:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

European players already have an advantage over American players: because of the time difference, we can also get a mask on January the 2nd. 145.94.74.23 08:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

No, its pacific time zone,all payers get same thing at same time --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:75.174.79.157 (talk).

Yeah, the time difference doesn't give any advantage to anyone - JoPe Talk 04:10, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Frosty tonics are not new

I dont know how to change the tables, but the frosty tonics are labeled as new, and they are not, they have been around since Wintersday in July.--71.31.118.174 22:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Removed note. I also seem to remember them, but that may be just my mind playing tricks again...--Fighterdoken 22:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, they were listed as new before I added the table, my mistake. -- Wyn 22:47, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Secret Lair of Snowmen

Which of the two quests is easier to farm this place? JoPe 12:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I've done both quests last year, and found the Dwayna side easier and quicker. I went as ranger and spammed Flurry Ice and stayed near the door. Robert Batchelor 02:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Ive been doing this too, it works well. Waiting at the door at the end takes a bit of time, so have something ready to keep you occupied. --Burning Freebies 10:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

With Grenth's side, you may get more CC Shards.. MystiLefemEle 06:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Finale Schedule

I added Finale Schedule, however addition images and fix my schedule will be great --Itay Alon 13:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I added a note under the table about the finale (have to fix it), and a note in Notes about the districts in the finale.--Itay Alon 14:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Decorated Towns

I added (yea, again) Decorated Towns with images (from the web site). Anyway, there is a bug with edit and CSS float command, I know it and I will try find a solution. --Itay Alon 18:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I have some too! I sorry but I don't know how to make an image.

Xmas Melandru: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw482.jpg

Xmas Balthazar: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw483.jpg

Xmas Dwayna: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw484.jpg

Xmas Grenth: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw486.jpg

Xmas Tree: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw477.jpg

Xmas Lights: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw476.jpg

Enchanted Snowman: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw480.jpg

Caroler of Grenth: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw481.jpg

Caroler of Dwayna: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw489.jpg

Snow Crystals: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw487.jpg

Candy Cane Field: http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp248/Kit0819/gw488.jpg

24.20.13.213 02:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Those weren't bad at all, but the Grenth was - JoPeTalk 21:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Error

Events in January 1st? Changed it.--DAVA 19:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Finale. --mira castillo 19:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, I wrote it under the table --Itay Alon 19:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Gwen's Garden

I think the prize is gonna be a Miniature Grentch! Thoughts?Shew 00:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I like your thinking. I was more thinking of an everlasting grencth Tonic?--DAVA 06:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking kinda same, but i fear it's even too cool to be possible :D - JoPe Talk 16:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

The everlasting would be much cooler :p-And btw anet dont like the mini's so much-remember the mini-non-celestial pigies. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:81.11.206.169 (talk).

Maybe it's a (storyline) sneakpeak of GW 2. 145.94.74.23 13:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd like a sneak-peak! I'd like an everlasting tonic too...hmm...well...Friday's almost here!-- Shew 18:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Nah, more like the quest reward is a free Rickroll from Anet :P Own age myname 21:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

It has to be red iris flower related in same way form or fashion. Dominator Matrix 04:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

go back to pre searing? 92.238.76.95 09:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

hate to ruin it for you, but everlasting is slim to none. why would anet mess up the econmy by putting a easy to get everlasting or mini out there? if you want my opinoin it is most likely a weapon of some sort, or a summumning stone.--71.30.29.79 22:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it's gonna ruin the economy to give players something new. I don't get what harm that's gonna make. 'Course i would understand if it would be something old - JoPe Talk 02:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I personally think a miniature would be enough to make me happy, yeah the Canthan new years minis have sucked, but i certainly think that a Wintersday based mini would be great, considering Wintersday is my favorite Guild Wars holiday. Forever Heroic 23:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

What if it is a summoning stone like the fire imp? (you can use it more than once)-- Shew 18:16, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

What if it was more like a pet. Moa's were common in pre. A Wintersday Moa would be nifty. :D

What if it's a static jingle bear that stands there and is pointless? THAT WOULD BE AWESOME....oh, wait....no it wouldn't. GG anet. You're always good at getting my hopes up and then mercilessly dashing them away. 75.61.32.166 21:28, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

In Gwen's Garden discussion page someone said (quoting Regina) that the Jingle Bear should be a charmable pet and that anet is trying to fix the current bug that prevents this from happening. Now this is a nice surprise, but it would be even nicer if you could get a statue to the Hall of Monuments for that pet (when it has eveolved to lvl20). Now as the Rainbow Phoenix didnt get its own statue, the chance for this to happen is very small but we can always wish, atleast in wintersday.88.192.89.77 22:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

It was *never* going to be a mini, they made the mistake of making the pig too easy to get before and then annoyed a lot of players when they attempted to fix that, why would they repeat that? I was thinking more along the lines of an everlasting tonic as well.. But I was quite happy when I saw it was a unique Ranger pet (until I found I couldn't charm it, but that's been fixed)92.23.89.153 12:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

So Ascalon has been freed?

Gwen says "The Ebon Vanguard will fight until Ascalon is free!" as one of her battle quotes, but most of the Vanguard is going to be off-duty for Wintersday. Surely the Ebon Vanguard didn't just lose their zeal, so I'm going to guess that their celebration will involve the slaughter of Charr. -- Dashface 04:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

What celebration is complete without the killing of a few Charr? Harem 04:49, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I second this motion Frozenwind 19:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

This is kinda funny cause one of the Vanguard festival quests involves slaughtering Charr Tenri 21:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Vanguard got theyr own fun for wintersday XD - JoPe Talk 23:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

There you have it! :P--70.71.240.170 19:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Note updated

I changed the note with some extra information.--DAVA 07:24, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

notoc?

why is there no table of contents? the other wintersday pages all had them and i frequently use them for long pages like this. --VVong|BA 21:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

No idea, no reason was given in the edit. I've gone ahead and removed the NOTOC. -- Brains12 \ talk 22:48, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

NPCs got Losted

Am I missing something, or have half the important Wintersday NPCs gone walkabouts? Or are they not arriving until later in the event? If that's the case was it mentioned anywhere?--118.90.86.175 21:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I note also that Wyn has gone ahead and put in some NPC information, though I am still unable to find several of those listed. After a good search through multiple districts I'm still not seeing Rift Wardens or Candysmiths. Anyone else confirm this?--118.90.86.175 22:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

if it is following how npcs appeared during halloween, it may take awhile for all of them to show up. --VVong|BA 22:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Correct, looking at the Wintersday_2007 page, NPCs came gradually between today and Monday. Might be worth adding to the main article? So many people are looking for the Rift Warden..... Fae 22:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Of all the places I attempted to look, the Wintersday 2007 page wasn't one of them. /Facepalm.--118.90.86.175 22:21, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Peppermint CCs?

Peppermint CCs are on the page but I don't see any collectors with them. --Life Infusion «T» 04:41, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

They come from the Wintersday Gifts.--Fighterdoken 04:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate it. --Life Infusion «T» 17:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments Tags

There are 2 sections that I made comment tags, because I don't saw them this year yet. If they will add in the future, delete the comment tags. --Itay Alon 16:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure they're going to add them later. --King Of Kamelott 17:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I think so too... but it's better (for now) to hide this information. --Itay Alon 18:41, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

No Grentches!

OK, I am really pissed off, there are no grentches in droknar's forge. I demand grentches!!!! --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:71.201.36.89 (talk).

There not anywhere this year. Either there delayed with the rift warden or there not coming. Dominator Matrix 22:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

So you can give the presents to children without anyone trying to stop you? I've been offline for few days, that's why i ask - JoPe Talk 01:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Nope presents aren't spawning either. --King Of Kamelott 03:09, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, that has never started at the very beginning of the event. -- Wyn 18:25, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:/

Where is candysmith ?--BTR 22:56, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Read a couple sections up. Not all NPCs are activated yet. Give it another day or two.--Pyron Sy 23:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

For the love of god, go to the damn Snowball arena. Oh my. --Inflame 15:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Experience points?

Someone can remove this if it's been found untrue. I tried to level up a level 8 hero doing all the wintersday quests, it didn't work...are the heroes not gaining exp this winter? :( Jaian Avery 23:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

The finale - missing picture

I add more information (from 2008 finale) and changed it a little (wrote 2009^^), but there isn't a picture of the rings (what changed? there is a Dwaf near the rings this year!). --Itay Alon 20:21, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Christmas Present for Players?

So, i guess Anet doesn't have anything like this planned, good, time to think about it (not) :p

And no those Hats and that stuff are not a Christmas Present.

We players demand a present!!! wantzz, my preciouuuzzz [=

Ah well, now i'm sure i won't get my mini bear after what i said, just a feeling ='O --Inflame 02:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Present = tameable jinglebear. Enjoy! :) --68.32.187.152 01:01, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh nice, i'm very happy with it, but is that a present? And how about those players that don't have EotN? ;) --Inflame 17:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

What about the Eotn Wintersday quests, the new tonics and the wintersday summoning stones? Those are new too. Yes, they're Eotn only, but you can still do a lot without eotn. 145.94.74.23 07:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The "Holiday Rewards" table

Shouldnt the Miniature Polar Bear be listed here as well? No matter how miniscule the chances of getting one are, it can only be obtained during Wintersday, thus making it a Holiday Reward. BenderRodriguez 12:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I added it to the table, you can delete/edit it. But I believe it should be there--Own 17:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

It's not the forst year thar Polar Bear in the table, i think that there is a reason... --Itay Alon 20:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I deleted the images "new" from this table, but it's not saved my log, so i write it here.. It's a wiki and not a site shop, things like image of "new" isn't for wiki. --Itay Alon 19:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

A Wintersday Guild?

I had a thought...you know how there are alliances and guilds that help districts meet all the criteria for holidays like the Canthan New Year? Why not make a guild that has a Wintersday theme that gets Wintersday presents to hand out to people on the finale, or have a "Christmas in Cantha" event? I still remember when the Myst alliance did that for one of the districts last New Year.

I think it's a good idea and a good way to give to the community. Of course, we wouldn't JUST give out presents, we'd hand out nog, fruitcake, and everything else Wintersday related! So, for those of you who think this is a good idea and you'd like to try, contact me in-game. My Main Character is Taka Ragranok. - Taka Ragranok

Happy Wintersday everyone!

Also, you can leave a message here and I'll send you an invite. Please join this, everyone, we wanna make this Wintersday a grand Wintersday for Guild Wars! I'll be stopping in on this topic fairly often today. Cheers! - Taka Ragranok

Its been done The Frozen Dragon Winter Festival Frozenwind 12:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Now, that's cool. Had this been brought to my attention sooner, things mighta gone a bit different...Thank you! ~ Taka Ragranok 04:38, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Party in Ice Tooth Cave

Guild Wiki is hosting a Party in Ice Tooth cave between now and six according to the site's clock, so come and join the fun GWWikians! Arcdash 20:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

• Ok, I am there on my derv, and nothing out of the ordinary is happening... Amazing Steve 04:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, are we talking international or what, because I have't got a clue where this thing is supposedly taking place at Ice Tooth Cave... Amazing Steve 04:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

My sinceriest apologies, I was in the Ice caves of sorrow, I have found it now. Lol, now remember, this is why you read what is said before you go running off to the wrong location. Amazing Steve 05:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Guild Wars Factions

if there is no winter holidays in GW Factions i think it should be said on the Wintersday 2008 page --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:87.58.29.195 (talk).

Just scroll down to Decorated Towns. --King Of Kamelott 23:52, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

festival hats

do you think there will be a collector for festival hats at the end? like they did for the dragon festival. Because i won't be around on jan 1 but i still want to get the hats--24.89.222.85 15:12, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I guess not. They will put it into ur inventory in the final if you supported the right god as every year. User:Erz

So the cold fact is that if you aren't in-game during finale, you can't get any festival gear - JoPeTalk 07:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

As has been pointed out on many event conversations, the hats are to commemorate your participation in the finale event. If you aren't able to participate in any of the 8 scheduled finales, then you have nothing to commemorate. -- Wyn 15:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

But they got Festival Hat Maker last year selling both 2 hats after finale. Was it because that server drawback on the 1 of the 8 schedules? - J.P.Talk 12:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Last year we got two hats. The year before, we had four hats. I'm hoping that we will see 4 hats again this year although it is doubtful. Does anyone know if there will be any headgear for the event available at the EOTN in exchange for some number of holiday collectables? 24.188.207.20 04:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Hats are commemorative items for finale events. I would highly doubt that you will be able to get a hat in any way other than attending a finale event in either Lion's Arch or Kamdan. The only exception to this is the Dragon Festival where people can trade victory tokens for a mask after the finale is over. -- Wyn/talk 04:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Bugger, wiki site won't allow image uploades (notes say broken till IT gets back from holiday and fixes it). Ah well, unofficial wiki has images if you are looking. Yamagawa 18:38, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Staggered Events?

I was just wondering if anyone knows whether or not the events this year will be staggered between LA and Kamadan like they were last year--Where the Kamadan finale starts 15 minutes after LA's? User:Harem 19:49, 31 December 2008

It has been confirmed on the offial site there will be a 15 minute delay for Kamadan. Hope this helps.--DAVA 21:49, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Why does it seem nowdays that so many ppl just go here without bothering to read what's on the page... - J.P.Talk 09:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

There's a page?  ;D   76.30.79.54 09:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

"Why does it seem nowdays that so many ppl" have a needless opinion to spout off?

Is it so hard to read? -.- J.P.Talk 10:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Sick of people telling me which time to use

The list of finale events every 3 hours just had to be in 24 hour format for GMT. It makes more sense to either both use 24h or both use 12h. I personally prefer 12h. It is not much of a big deal but still, it would make so much more sense to keep both times in one format then have them in different formats. (Just like my iPhone. Forced to use 24h because i am from UK. luckily that is fixed). At least have them in both formats or have them for every single time zone in only 1 format.

As i said it is not much of a big deal but i am kind of fed up of people choosing what i should use for me. 82.13.34.49 10:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

We does it before in other holidays, so i don't think that it so bad...

maybe if GWW do something that let people changing the format, but for now i think that it's ok. --Itay Alon 15:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

@82.13.34.59 - You are free to create your own time table in your userspace (once you have registered) using whatever format you wish. The mainspace articles are done in 12hr format, listing Pacific and UTC (GMT) time. "i am kind of fed up of people choosing what i should use for me" Yet you are trying to dictate to the entire community that they have to do it your way. Don't be a hypocrite. -- Wyn/talk 22:00, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Wintersday Nine Rings

I'm suprised there is no page for this, just a reference to "similar to nine rings". Does anyone know the full odds and rewards? Should there be a seperate page for this game? Fay Vert 16:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

It's really not worth the effort. One char stood in the corner in Kamadan for each event; 86 Unlucky, 158 Lucky. If next year the shard 'cost' was raised by 10x or more then it may be worth it. No real affect on the title track as it is. Aro 09:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I was just suprised to see no information on it. I know that if your square is picked you win shards and a present, and some shards if adjacent. I also note that most people stand on centre, but is this the best place to stand or just people being sheep? I came to wiki to find out but no info. I wasn't remotely interested in lucky title, don't presume to judge the value of information. Fay Vert 21:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

It works the same way as nine rings, folks can check on that page. Only diff is corner ring get +5 for a win, middle gets +3, side-center not sure, and it's a constant 1 cost/1 loss. Get more points using a lockpick you just found on the ground, more so with a second free lockpick via quest. Does not seem like the value is high to you as I've not seen a page started. Aro 04:02, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

You get 3 at the center, 4 at the side, 5 at a corner for a win. 2 if you stand at an adjacent ring. This version of Nine Rings favors the middle unlike during Boardwalk. -Khan Reaper Kerensky 08:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Notes

It says CAUTION: There have been reports of various districts in Kamadan completely missing the finale at scheduled times. As far as can be observed, this has not happened for Lion's Arch. it did happen to me in district 97 in Lion's Arch at midnight so i am changing note. Nekozick 14:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

This is normal, it happens for all districts created after start of event. --King Of Kamelott 23:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Apparently, the event doesn't start for districts that were created within five minutes of the scheduled start. I can't confirm the time frame as this has never happened to me, but it did happen to some of my alliance peeps before. Robert Batchelor 03:38, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Kamadan Favored

Its interesting that I get more presents while in Kamadan than in Lion's Arch. Anyone else seeing this? Retro77 05:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

You get 15 presents after you get the hat, one after each minute, i think. This is the same in both Kamadan and LA, it was for me. - J.P.Talk 10:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Funny but my other half got 12 - 15 presents in an even district (D6) in Lions Arch while I got 25 - 27 also an even district (D8) in Lions Arch, we were both in the middle circle. I looked at when they were given out, during the 'contest' or after when they drop in your inventory and almost all were when they were dropped. Not sure why the difference but if anyone can figure it out then please let me know. Just curious if anyone else noticed this or not. Chris 69.54.220.18 16:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Wintersday Finale Table

It was more than once, people float it to right, because there is a space. This is not a fun site, or a picture site, this is a wiki, so we needn't float some objects because spaces, but you may add some pictures, it will be nice and we really need some images here. More over, "this is better use of space" it's opinion, and like wyn "Yet you are trying to dictate to the entire community that they have to do it your way. Don't be a hypocrite.". --Itay Alon 14:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

← moved to User talk:Itay Alon#Revert_timetable

Winner?

Who won this year?? Grenth or Dwayna? And, if Grenth won, how much longer will wintersday become?Kyahaha 23:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Neither, the different victories are only temporary for each district. --King Of Kamelott 00:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I think last year, Grenth was declared the overall winner (whether he won in more districts or more total points, I'm not sure), and Wintersday was extended, if I recall correctly. -- Lord Ehzed 02:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

?

Why havn't it ended yet?Megalodon 13:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Image:big_spam.jpg--BTR 05:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Please do not put large images here as it can lag some people. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.71.229.129 (talk).

The page could use some cleanup.. 41kB already. -- Karasu (talk) 17:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Winter Dwarf

Added a note, here is a screenie[1].