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My curiosity is getting the better of me today. Anyone know what Regina is busy with? She hasn't been seen on the wiki in 3 days now, and I just found that slightly odd. --Wolf 14:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

She may be taking a few days off to get used to the fact that there are, indeed, assholes on the internet. She wasn't really expecting that; I have that from a good source. -- Armond Warblade 14:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Reading comprehension FTL! Did you actually read that blog post? I don't want to get into a long debate here about a month-old post, talking about events that took place nearly four months ago, but you may want to take a look at this excerpt from the post you linked below: "I did know that people would do Google searches on me. I knew they would find articles I’d written, interviews I’d participted in, and so on." So yes, the community response was entirely expected. --Regina Buenaobra 18:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

pwned! -- Alaris 18:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Just a little bit XD --Wolf 18:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, that kinda got lost in all the "QQ internets people". That doesn't, however, mean it was any easier to deal with - which was my real point, that I thought you needed a break to get away from the internets people. -- Armond Warblade 20:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Like Vael Victus once said, "It's all LOL INTERNETS! anyway." --Wolf 20:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

lol what I love you guys <3 Vael Victus 00:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Uh, Armond Warblade, you do realize that the blog post is over a month old? And that it was referencing events that happened over four months ago? Just because you are just now discovering the post doesn't mean that Regina is still "recovering" or whatever it is that you seem to think she's doing. Your condescending attitude is entirely inappropriate. If you think that post can be summed up with "QQ internets people" then you clearly missed the point of the post, btw. And why would she need a break anyway? What makes you think she's some internet noob who can't handle the flak that comes her way? Hello, she's 1) a woman and 2) a games blogger. Do you honestly think the kind of sexist, racist, homophobic welcome that she got from some quarters of the GW community is new to her? 24.16.125.151 23:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

IDK, I think every once in a while, no matter who you are, if you frequent sites like the wiki and fan forums and such, and are running into people of a motre negative attitude, it helps to take a few days, step back, and have a breather. I did something of that nature and it helped tramendously. --Wolf 14:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Can't say I would blame her. Heck, I did someting like that not too long ago myself. Who are these "sources" of yours? --Wolf 14:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

PAX maybe? --MageMontu 15:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Or even HAX? O.o lol. I've been waiting to make that joke. I'm sure she is busy, and PAX stuff did cross my mind, I was just curious of anyone knew for sure. --Wolf 15:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

PAX? No, PAX is cool and all, but it's not the source I was looking at. My source is, of course, Regina. -- Armond Warblade 16:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I read that, and "WOW" is the only thing that comes to mind. My level of respect for Regina (already being VERY high) just tripled. No single person should have to put up with that much crap. Bigot, intesresting word. It's refreshing to see someone else with a colorful (not in the swearing sense) vocabulary. --Wolf 17:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, my respect for Regina has shot up. It's good to see what she's like outside of work constraints. And she's dead right about the sexism etc. I remember it was the same with Gaile - many people seemed unable to make (sometimes justified) complaints without (utterly unjustified) derogatory references to her gender.Cassie 17:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I only recently started hanging around on the wiki and I don't take part in forums, so I pretty much missed all of those deals. There is a very good reason the only thing people on the wiki know about me personaly is that I'm a programmer, a very little bit of my personal interests and tastes, and my OCD, perfectionsist tendancies. I'd rather leave people wondering and have questions about me as a person than know everything and have that cause misconceptions and issues and such. Unfortunatlely, some people have not been afforded the luxury of anonymity. I would turn this next statement into a pun, but I think I will refrain. The scum of the earth tend ot congragate on the internet. Now, that doesn't mean everyone on the internet falls into the category of "scum of the earth". --Wolf 17:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Just a question, why has her having a hard time tripled your respect for her? 000.00.00.00 19:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

With the amount of crap Anet employees take around here, it's amazing that they don't rage back at us the way people around here rage on them. It's eaxtremely hard for me to resist ranging out on people and completely loosing it, and I have very good self control, and very little (if any) is directed my way. To be able to manage the community to the degree that she does and not loose her cool is outstanding. --Wolf 19:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

07/31/08 15:50:24 <MMSDome> no she is bad at her job

07/31/08 15:50:37 <MMSDome> she isnt coming out to the community

07/31/08 15:50:47 <MMSDome> if we want her input we need to go to her talk page which is bullshit

Pretty much sums it up for me. -- Spazz|Talk 20:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I DID NOT start this thread so you could rag on Regina, Spazz. Drop it or GTFO. --Wolf 20:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I admit, I am a little out of my element. Ingame is where I belong, and wiki--judging by your userpage--is where you are most comfortable. Those of us who play the game do not care about the game any less than those of you who spend time on the wiki. It is unfair to never see the community representitive even when she does have time. It's slightly aggrivating to have it reconfirmed that the wiki is the only place where she can be reached ("This has impacted the time I spend on the wiki, but I am still reading"). The conversation was gravitating towards this, so I felt I was on-topic. -- Spazz|Talk 20:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

It's actualy increadibly off topic. On a side note, the only way to get comfortable with the wiki is to be around it and use it. Also, if oyu wish to continue this line of discussion, please make a new topic for it. --Wolf 20:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

This is the section titled Regina, and this is the one discussing her stress. As you yourself stated, "Communication needs to be a bit faster, more fluid, and connect more directly to every player." That is all I want. -- Spazz|Talk 20:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow, we realy do digress wuite quickly. Your right, I did say that, and blast it, now I can't find what topic it was in. But in all due seriousness, if you want to further this particular discussion, I think you should make a new topic, as it's not the primary subject of the one, and is just a digression from a side-comment made by another person. I'm sorry for any anger or hostility on which I first confronted you about this. As I said down below, I seem to jump the gun alot when comments are made that can quite easily start things down a road we don't want it to go. --Wolf 21:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) There are people in the world, who don't write every day something in this wiki?? ^^GRASP^^ Does it mean the End is coming?? Repent! Repent! .... OK, on a more serious note, even if you are the community manager you ar not suposed to write every day in this wiki and you have more task at hand than this. Balwin 17:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

You usualy see her drop a comment or two in a conversation here and there archive a little, stuff like that. Looking at her contributions, she usualy has several days of high activity, followed by two or three down days, and then another few days of high activity, and so forth. Her last active day following this trend was the 24th, then the 28th being her next active day, but even that was not very active given the current trend. --Wolf 17:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok, that's way more details on her activities than I am comfortable with. Anyone else? -- Alaris 17:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

LOL! Sorry, I just realized hwo rediculous that sounds. I work for a company that does tons of trend analysis, and even being a programmer, I still get a high dose of it myself. Trend analysis is kinda a reflex for things like this now :P --Wolf 17:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hahah, cool! I certainly understand doing geeky things then realizing that from a normal person's point of view, what I just did might look weird! -- Alaris 18:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Lots of meetings. We've had planning meetings about PAX, related to the event pages, related to graphic design for our printed materials, to discussing and refining the events at the party, etc. I've also been working on editing web content that will be published for next month. I've also been talking to the IT team about servers and such. This has impacted the time I spend on the wiki, but I am still reading. --Regina Buenaobra 17:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah! She speaks! Thanks for the update. I can relate to the "stuck in meetings all day" situation, it realy sucks. Do we get to know what this web content relates to, or is a surprise? --Wolf 18:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Any news on the servers? I've been experiencing some lag too lately - not enough to be worrisome but still impacting farming efficiency on 55/SS by getting me killed - so that they're working on it is always good news. -- Alaris 18:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Web content is mainly PAX-related. I'm also preparing a tournament article for hand off to our editor.

The stuff on the server isn't to do with the live game servers. I've been reading messages from our network technicians this morning, and while there was a little blip in our LA datacenter earlier today, I'm told it had no effect on any of the NCsoft games, including GW.

Oh also, Emily put all of the photos from PAX 2007 on our brand new Flickr photostream: http://flickr.com/photos/arenanet/ We plan on putting the PAX 2008 photos on Flickr as well. Because we are all up in that Web 2.0. Stuff. :-P--Regina Buenaobra 18:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Awe, not flickr. --Wolf 18:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Not to rain on any particular parade, as I do like Regina, or to start a troll-fest, but am i the only one getting very tired of the yay-brigade on this page? If someone has a complaint and they are not breaking GWW policy and not making a personal attack and instead are venting their frustration about something they consider valid, it is not up to any user to disallow them to do so. I don't agree with the constant hounding that Regina gets, however some concerns of players which have been put forward in a manner which does not break NPA, are being jumped on by others. Regina is a mature and independent woman and she is perfectly capable of handling customers who are upset, after all it is part of HER job. Thus in the future please bare in mind that this is an objective forum for discourse and not a page devoted solely to "Anet YAY!" type posts and nor should it descend into breaches of NPA and trolling of her page. This isn't in direct reference to anything in particular in this thread and nor am I saying that I agree with any one persons viewpoint expressed on this page, however what I am saying is that those on this page have no right to tell people who have not breached GWW policy to "GTFO". Doing so is against the spirit of the wiki itself and I think many wiki users would appreciate it if people could refrain from doing so in the future. -- Salome 21:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I can see why you think it is unfair, and your point is completely valid. I guess I tend to jump the gun when I see certain comments who's like I have seen start troll-fests and just all around unpleasent-ness. I apologize if I have crossed the line in that matter. --Wolf 21:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

It was not directed solely at you Wolf or, for that matter, was it directed at any one individual, it was more a general comment to the wiki community at large, so their is no need to apologise. Unfortunately I used a quote from yourself as an example, so I apologise for that, as it did seem to direct my comment at you. On a personal note, it is evident that you had good intentions and that you are a positive force on this wiki and many of us are happy that you have joined our community, it is just always important to heed that in our eagerness to avoid wiki-drama and potential troll fests, we also have to ensure that we don't stifle valid debate. Otherwise the wiki becomes an ANET advertising tool and loses its objective and informative basis. Warmest Regards -- Salome 21:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I think the is a valid time to point out a statement I made on my talk page: A Few Words. I see nothing wrong with having an example made of me. (intentionaly or not) I realized tho, that I was an equal offender, and that I handled that situation poorly and was overly harsh with my words. --Wolf 21:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Now that we are all friends again, might I interest anyone in a COOKIE? --Wolf 22:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

It is neither Regina's job, nor anyone at the company, to be insulted. If you can do better, go make your own game and enjoy the abuse, which some people think is the right way to talk to people. Between now and then, learn a little respect. If you still think it's ok to talk that way to people, think about it from this point of view: your father doesn't buy you the right present so you look at him in the face and scream, "FAIL!" Nice.

Ghosst • Talk • 22:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I begin to think that MMOs have created a kind of new relationship between developpers and customers, and that it will take some time before communication becomes more effective and smoother for both of them. Yseron - 86.209.71.118 22:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm failing to see who Ghosst is actually responding too with his post. -- Salome 01:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps its a response to the link that was provided. 000.00.00.00 04:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps he was just making an overarching statement and forgot his (Reset indent) ? --Wolf 14:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Overarching. Now there's a 5-star word. Vael Victus 14:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

How so? --Wolf 14:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Golly gee willickers, probably because I liked it? o.o; Vael Victus 04:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Lol, kk. W/e floats your boat =D --Wolf 04:39, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Sooo is there a reason why...

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/showthread.php?t=480979 this was never posted on Guild Wars Guru? Are people there just not open to be given the same chance as GWO to ask the same questions or what? =/ Unless if I missed the topic (I am 99% sure this isn't the case) on GWG. I would rather not have to post on GWO anymore than neccessary. I know you've mentioned GWG before, but I don't want to feel left out because of a few bad people (Shouldn't let the few bad apples ruin it for the rest of us - lord knows the other fansites have em too.). I really don't like the other fansites and I am hoping this is just a user error or something on your part. :/ DarkNecrid 06:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Whoa, that's new. Has there been put on here as well? 000.00.00.00 06:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I do not see the reason why this should be posted on Guru as well other than Guru is your personal favorite fan site? Regina is still free in choice where and what she posts. The elite fan sites should all get scoops and exclusive materials in my opinion. Even the official and listed could get exclusive material for their site as a token of appreciation for their contribution to the GW community. Being a member of a fan site shouldn't be a competition to get more or as much exclusive materials as the next fan site, then you miss the meaning of a community based fan site I think. It isn't even necessary to post the same content on all fan sites either, news spreads, no matter where it's posted. Hope I haven't offended you in any way, grtz -- (Tribina / talk) 09:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Didn't know about it, would have liked to. --Silverleaf 10:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I would have thought all such information would hit the Wiki first... it is hosted by Arenanet first after all. All fan sites should really reference here in my opinion. But... if Arenanet wants to spread it around... [shrugs] 118.92.174.184 11:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

To person 3 messages above: it isn't exclusive. In fact she posted it on two other fansites (Crossing Tyria and Pre-Searing Community), neither of which are elite fansites (the ones that are supposed to receive the most attention from the devs, mind you). In fact, GWO is the only elite fansite that it seems to have been posted on as far as I can tell, and that's pretty bad imo. No elite fansite has ever had favoritism before (which is essestientially what exclusive scoops etc are in this case), and they've all had the info cross posted because it's a well known fact that each elite fansite has its own fanbase. I just don't want a few bad apples overruling the rest of us because if you killed something for the majority of people on Guru (the good apples) for the few bad apples, it would be the equivalent of going along with vaporizing Earth just because we have a few (compared to the majority, mind you) bad apples. I don't like that it wasn't posted on Guru, not because it is relevant to me (it isn't, I couldn't care less about the questionaire thing, actually. Good idea, not relevant to my tastes), but because it is denying others the chance to be heard on another fansite who may not want to go to GWO for reasons besides it being "a competition". If I was a member of Guild Wars Vault, I'd be posting the same thing now too, or if it was posted on Guru only and I was a GWO guy. It isn't very right to let part of your elite fansites be unheard, especially when they are supposed to be heard from you! That is why I am hoping this is just a user error on Regina's part, because I know there is quite a few people there who would be interested in this (like say, Silverleaf above) but don't want to register for another site, go to another site, or what not, and that isn't fair to them! I also know Regina has said some unsavory things about GWG in the past, but again, there is a lot of unsavory things on GWO and other sites too. They just have more mods, more active mods, and such to catch the bad a lot quicker. Guru is a good fansite because it has a lot of the experienced people who, while they may give you a hard time, are just wanting a lot of good for the game. The bad apples there (the racist/homophobic/etc) people are usually taken care of eventually, and if not there is always the report button. Also to person above me: you obviously didn't see what the thing was. The wiki isn't very good for talking like forums are, and things get confusing because they aren't ordered like forums. Light discussion or quick questions like this are good, but stuff like that are best handled and ordered topics on forums.

EDIT: Also I know you say you don't let it affect your job, which is why I think this is just a user error or something if nothing else, I'm just saying. :) I'm mostly worried about being abandoned I guess....DarkNecrid 11:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

its linked on guru http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10312976, also i dont like guru cuz moderators on the site are just flat out bad. they delete posts for little to no reason and close topics because the title of the topic is the same as another one. i could moderate better then they can.75.165.126.130 20:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

No shit it's linked on Guru, that isn't the point. The dev corner links everything from every site, it doesn't change the fact I have to go onto another damn fansite just to be heard which sorta defies the point of an Elite Fansite in the first place. The dev corner is not a place looked at by devs at all, and it is not there to make their jobs easier either. I just want my site to be heard too okay, but so far we've basically gotten nothing on this, and that is sending a pretty terrible message to me considering there is a wide variety of people on Guru who would be interested. DarkNecrid 02:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

QQ more if you really have questions just go sign up for that site or one of the other sites, you should be happy anet is accepting questions in the first place. who cares if its not on a "elite site" like i said before most of the staff on guru dose not know how to moderate or keep there forum. for example there is a lot of stuff that should be sticked but its not. also there should be a sub form for everything relating to gw2 but there isn't. there are a lot of other sites besides guru why should guru get special treatment? oh because its an "elite" site sorry to tell you but the site you linked to is a "elite" site gg http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/68.167.249.120 06:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Special treatment? I think he wants equal treatment. I don't even like guru that much (check my post count), but I can still understand where he is coming from. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 07:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

It'll probably be posted eventually. I think. There are more than a few people that only sign up for a few sites (even one), so it would make sense to get exposure etc. Too many places means too many places to check when they take in the submissions, but it would only make sense to aim for the biggest ones. That or use the wiki as well, which doesn't require registration. Or maybe an e-mail address, although they'd probably get more spam that way than actual questions. -- Sirius (talk) 08:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

"QQ more if you really have questions just go sign up for that site or one of the other sites, you should be happy anet is accepting questions in the first place. who cares if its not on a "elite site" like i said before most of the staff on guru dose not know how to moderate or keep there forum. for example there is a lot of stuff that should be sticked but its not. also there should be a sub form for everything relating to gw2 but there isn't. there are a lot of other sites besides guru why should guru get special treatment? oh because its an "elite" site sorry to tell you but the site you linked to is a "elite" site gg http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/68.167.249.120 06:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)" (This is why wiki fails by talking like forums btw but...) Hey guy, thanks for reading what I said. First off, I have already said I and a bunch of others refuse to go to GWO, and other fansites, for many reasons. Second off, "why should Guru get special treatment". el. oh. el. Let me rephrase that for you: why should GWO get special treatment? They're the only elite fansite to have it posted. Here's a hint: they shouldn't. There is only 3 elite fansites, all of them should all have the same content from ArenaNet because they should be equal. I'm not looking for special treatment and I question your intelligence if you really think that, considering for 4 years now (yeye, Beta.) all the elite fansites have seen equal attention from ArenaNet always. You don't have the right to tell Guru mods that they are failing at their job. They don't sticky a lot of stuff because people don't read stickies. They don't have a Guild Wars 2 section because most people on Guru aren't dumb and want to come up with ideas that aren't going to happen in GW2 anyways. And if they want to, there is Sardelac for that. End. To the guy above me " but it would only make sense to aim for the biggest ones." I am not sure if you mean include Guru here or not, but I would like to point out that Guru is substantially bigger than GWO is (not that that matters, it should be posted equally.). And if the IP guy posts again, I just want you to know I am not a Guru fanboy. I just choose to post there. I am however, an ArenaNet fanboy and think the elite fansite communities should be treated equal. If it was only posted on Guru, you could bet your ass I would be right here asking why it isn't on GWO. DarkNecrid 10:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) My guess as to why it wasn't posted on guru, and I'm not saying that it should or should not be posted there, but a freshly made topic on that forum can span to 5 or 6 pages of +1 comments in matter of 10 minutes or so. There are some posts there that have some useful information in them, but that majority of the posts is a sarcastic remark with a +1 behind it. And if I was the person that had to look through forum posts, and I'm sure with this kind of topic there would be quite a few sarcastic +1's, I would not want to spend hours looking through 20 plus pages only to get maybe 1 or 2 useful questions. Maybe she should have posted it there to make guru members feel in the loop of things, but from the typical posts that gather there nothing useful would have came out of it. It's sad but true. And I'm sure the mods do the best they can to monitor the posts but it's also up to the members to not post snide, rude, sexist, sarcastic, +1's for the mods to monitor. From my experience if I look to forums for useful information guru is the last place I look because I really don't like looking through 40 pages of QFT, QQ MOAR, IBL +1--BabyJ 15:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

That's very rare, not specific to Guru at all (I've seen it on a ton of the other fansites too), and that's what the Report Post function is for. That isn't a good reason to not post it either. It's still sending a bad message to me (and a lot of other people there) because it's the first time you can call it favoritism, though it only looks that way for now. Which is why I'm hoping Regina will reply soon...:(. DarkNecrid 15:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree with DarkNecrid , all elite sites should be given the same consideration by Anet's CR . I would have some question but I now have to join an alternative "elite" site just to do that which makes it look like GWO is the portal that Anet is going to use to conduct its community relations. I personally have never had any issues with GWG in comparison to other sites , there are always idiots on a forum and its upto both the users and the mods to clean them out. I don't think guru does a particularly bad job at all.

And I also agree it should have been posted there since guru is an elite fansite. And yes those things do happen on other fansites, but guru being as big as it is, the mods can only clean up so many posts. I'm just saying in my experience from guru theres quite a bit more Lrn2ply noob and IBTL +1 posts than other websites. Whether it be the other websites have a few less posters than guru so the mods can do a faster job of getting things cleaned up than the mods on guru. But this all goes back to the posters need follow the rules of the website and not post such crap so the mods can do their jobs better. Then again if posters would follow rules there would be no need for mods. Anyway thats going off topic. I'm just saying I can sort of see a point of why it wouldn't be posted there but I also agree it should have been regardless. Although it could have been she was trying to hurry and just missed guru. She has been busy with meetings and such so it could just be an error on her part from being in a hurry to get it posted. We'll just have to see the reason when regina posts.--BabyJ 17:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

@DarkNecrid please refrain from using personal attacks thanks. also you said it your self that she posted it on other sites besides GWO being my point is being an elite site dost mean anything. and yes i read guru and gwo and i read what you wrote about my about post on guru, i am not an Idiot, and if you feel like there are bad discussions or bad posters on the wiki then report it to an admin. lastly i would like to point out that that list of fan sites is rarely updated. imho she didn't post it there cuz she was in a hurry like babyj said it probably wasn't favoritism. 68.167.249.120 17:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm assuming it's not favoritism too, and I never used a personal attack. Also, yes, it being an Elite Site does mean something. It means they are supposed to get equal CR treatment. I said what I said on Guru, because the very nature of what you said ("special treatment" for Guru) is exactly what GWO is getting in-a-round-about-way, and not what I'm asking for at all. I am asking for equal treatment, as has always been given. You can't argue this, because it is pretty deathly obvious to anyone that for 4 years there has always been equal treatment amongst all the Elite fansites because that is the point of them: they get attention from the devs equally. This is why I am hoping it is an error on Regina's part, because as much as I love Planet Tyria and PSC, to have it posted on those two and not Guru or GWV is some kind of cruel joke otherwise. DarkNecrid 19:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

@DarkNecrid i was referring to this "Idiot of the Year Award". 68.167.249.120 19:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Mmmm, but that wasn't on Wiki. ;) DarkNecrid 19:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

you still said it in blatant reference to me seeing as you quoted me in that post.68.167.250.16 20:40, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

That's great, the personal attacks thing only applies to Wiki, and it was only a subtle tap anyways. What you said was very questionably unintelligent, and so I responsed my thoughts on that on Guru similarly. To Regina: I posted on GWO just because I'm not sure when the deadline for this ends. I am very unhappy that I have been forced to post somewhere just to be heard from Anet, when the entire purpose of multiple fansites is so that various groups of people can be heard by Anet equally. But you forced my hand, so I asked a question from me, and 2 questions from fellow Gurus who were interested in giving you guys questions but seemed to have gotten blown offed. I am fairly upset about this, but still holding a slight bit of optimism it is just a user error and not on purpose. DarkNecrid 09:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm just going to jump in here to give my opinion...

Just because some people made racist, homophobic and other nasty comments towards Regina is not a reason to stop posting on Guru. By doing this, you are forcing every single member to either register for GWO (something not everyone wants) or to look at the Game and Dev Tracker, see the post, and if they want to comment on it, they have to sign up for GWO, though they can do it in the Dev tracker forum, no Dev, apart from Martin Kerstein, reads it AFAIK.

We, being a moderator on Guru myself, do our best to delete posts with comments such as these. No, we can´t catch everything, no, we can´t be on every single hour of every single day, and no, we are not your slaves. If you think we´re doing such a bad job, well, tough shit. There´s a report button, there´s a PM system, and unless you actually try to do something about it, stop complaining.

I just hope this is a user error, and not on purpose, like DarkNecrid said. If it was on purpose, well, I don´t think alot of people will be happy with that. -- Mini Me 11:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Very well said! Again, I don't think the most of it is Guru's fault, but there is a lot of bad people that do get away with stuff, but it's up to people to report it, including Regina etc. Just, a lot of people don't. I am only giving Regina the benefit of the doubt here because well a) I don't want to be right, and b) I know she is a good person who can do her job well because I've seen how good she can be from her interviews, her stuff with X-Fire, etc. She's a good person, though this is the first time I've been in a community she has been in too. I hope it's a fairly large user error on her part, because come on, Pre-Searing Community and Planet Tyria! Guru can be a bad place if no one does anything, true, but even though I say how bad it is sometimes, it is still my home Elite Fansite, and one I refuse to leave. I only posted on GWO because...I wanted to be heard and wanted my fellow Guru friends to be heard and had no clue when that time would end. I hope it will be posted soon Regina, because even though Guru does have a few bad seeds, it still has some of the greatest members of the community there (as does GWO, GWV, etc.). Ensign (or he did...the guy who started a lot of the old mechanic exploration stuff...), Divine, Racthoth, Arkantos, Inde, etc, are all great people, and a lot of us at Guru are good too. The only reason I've been posting a bit about this in such long paragraphs is because you have been pretty lax on Guru compared to how you were at the start. I know, I know, busy busy busy, GW2, lack of info etc, and I don't know if that's been the same on GWO, but it seems...like you're sorta backing away from Guru I guess? I hope not. I'm just worried and want mine (and other) fansites to get their fair share of the dev and CR's time. :) I am hoping you will reply shortly, because I know there is a lot of people on Guru who are waiting for this opportunity! I guess I'm mostly praying for an "oops had a posting error and it didn't go through my bad" and a reassuring word of equality or something. The Elite Fansites were always the best part of Guild Wars' community imo, because it let a ton of different people, go to different communities, and still be brought together because they were equal in the eyes of the CR. I just hope this is still the case! DarkNecrid 11:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It shouldn’t have been posted on any of the sites. It should have been put up on the main site and left for the moderators of each site to gather the questions and submit them to her. If the CR had sent an e-mail to the fan sites asking them to post the question and email a list of the questions to her most would have jumped at the suggestion. Instead of readying through thousands of post which is time consuming they would have had a few e-mails.

As far as which site is best that depends on the user. I can’t stand using the wiki as a forums, find Guru to be rude and full of elitist, and GWO forums is a jumbled mess that seems to be just thrown together.

Damage is already done so no use in crying over it now. I don’t know why the post was only made on 3 sits but I refuse to make assumptions. The one thing that amazes me is ANET continually fails to use free resources that can also be used to find talented people within the community.--Shayne123 13:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

No. It should have been posted on both the site and the forums. This way, you can be sure that (nearly) everyone reads it, because most of the GW players probably read the main site. Also, I really don't think most of the moderators would be too happy with having to gather the questions for ANet, afterall, it's their idea, right? Pretty sure they have enough people to gather through the threads and pick out the right questions. -- Mini Me 14:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I am glad Guru is being kept out of the loop. It is the worst of the big fansite forums. Some of the loudest voices on Guru pretend they are royalty and could benefit from learning a little humility. Esan 14:56, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes because punishing 170k people for the crimes of, like say, 10, totally makes sense. That is very dictator-esque thinking right there. Guru isn't being kept out of the loop at all, we know it's there. If we didn't, I wouldn't be posting this now. Duh. But we're being thrown aside. If you seriously mean what you say, then very well then. But it's not a step much away from the same happening to GWO, then PSC, then Crossing Tyria, etc. Because they all have their fair share of assholes, dicks, racists, homophobes, neo-nazis, sexists, etc. Guru isn't special in that regard, the mods just aren't active enough because they aren't a bunch of kids who can sit on their computers 24/7 and mod the entire forum and see everything 3s after it is posted. DarkNecrid 16:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Enough of that. This started as a simple question by DarkNecrid on why Regina did as she did. Please stop the pointless speculation until Regina has a chance to respond. Most especially stop with the fansite bashing and ranting; this is not the place for it. -- ab.er.rant 16:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I'd say there is very little bashing going on, and most fo the ranting is full fo valid points, but yes, this is nto goign to get any farther until we have regina's take on it --Wolf 16:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Aberant. :) Here's hoping! I escalated it a bit to a post on GWO just in case if she doesn't check this first because it's a fairly important issue to me, but outside of PMing her on like all 5 fansites (which seems kind of...erm...weird/stalkerish.) and praying to every lord out there that all of them aren't full, just have to play the waiting game...:) DarkNecrid 16:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

@Darknecrid saying that kind of stuff on guru is the reason why i don't like guru and is why i think others don't eather. i feel like you guys are looking way to into this and simply put it was done that way with out any regard for were it was posting, they probably didn't think it was that big of a deal or it was unfair treatment. which imo it wasn't. lastly probably the latest you can post a question would be the 24th or 27th seeing that pax is the weekend of the 29th-31th, i bet they need time to read though the treads and gather the info they need.75.165.126.130 18:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Probably, but it definitely feels that way. Also, that's the reason I like Guru. I like being able to call someone dumb if I can back it up. You should be able to. I like those kind of places. I can be subtle about it here (I obviously never did anything here) too, but sometimes you have to call out other people's stupidity, otherwise they might think themselves smart, and that doesn't bode well for the future at all. It isn't for everyone, but then again, neither is GWO's carebearish environment. And that is what I meant by different communities, different people, and why equal CR exposure on topics has always been the strong point of GW's community and CR. Like aberant said, let's not talk about the fansites anymore please. Let's wait for Regina to clear this up... DarkNecrid 18:34, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I hope I don't sound reprimanding here, but.... This discussion is not going to spot until one of your just disregards what the other says and doesn't continue this line of conversation. DarkNecrid, if you want this discussion to stop, don't replay to what he says. --Wolf 18:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

@Darknecrid you continue to prove my point. and wolf now that he has proven my point about the bad posters on guru i will shut up in that regard.75.165.126.130 18:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

If you wish to continue to discuss this, by all means, do, but please take it to DarkNecrid's talk page, as this conversation now only involves you and him. Thanks. --Wolf 19:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Just like to point out to GWOers mostly that http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4165435 wasn't posted on GWO either. Or Guru. Or Vault. I don't get it. Surely you would want the most potential people for these kind of things, yet NONE of the elite fansites got that. At all. It's no secret there is a fair share of adult couples on GWO/Guru/Vault...and yet all 3 got beat out by non-Elite fansites. Yeah okay. If there isn't a response or reasoning to this by Wednesday, I'm gonna do something, cause this is getting really tiring, annoying, and most important: very very lame. There is no way this can just be a simple user error with two topics in a row. Again, Regina, I like you. You're awesome okay. But, as a player and not a person, this has me kinda upset, and wondering what is going on. So tell me/us. Because this is pretty unsettling, for me anyways. EDIT: lol it was posted on Guru it just dropped off the face of the planet and it was on GWO but the mods locked it which basically means no one saw it as it dropped off too I guess. Sorry :| DarkNecrid 21:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Dark Necrid, could you please stop blowing this whole wank out of proportion? If you'd bothered to look, you'd see that the NCsoft kids/parent thing HAS been posted on both Guru and GWO. You might also want to double-check the parameters of the fansite program. No where does it say that any of the fansites, elite or otherwise, are entitled to anything. In fact, regarding communications from the CM, the program states the exact same information for Honored, Elite and Specialty fansites. So please stop treated Crossing Tyria and Pre-Searing as though they are somehow less deserving than Guru. 24.16.125.151 23:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

what are you going to do? she dosnt have to answer you. also that was posted like a week before the other tread about the qustions. 75.165.126.130 23:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Not only doesn't she have to answer you...I hope she doesn't answer this stupidity. This = One vote for no response to this elitist stupidity! -- Inspired to ____ 01:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it's totally stupid to ask for something to be equal amongst fansites dude. :| Also, I will admit I was wrong about the other thread, but then again it was locked on GWO and pretty much fell off the charts on Guru. So I will say sorry for that! But this still isn't on Guru. :( :( :( :( :(

If you say I am being elitist, then you should carefully reread the fansite program. It actually doesn't say that any fansite will receive CR attention as a feature. It never really has. But, historically (read: 4 years), it has been the elite fansites that receive the most attention, followed by the honored, then the listed, etc. It's very much a chain of command-esque type deal, and the point is, this has never happened before. I don't care that it is on Crossing Tyria or PSC. If you thought that was my point, go reread it again. My point was that Guru and Vault didn't receive this info at all. Vault is a bit more questionable to me, but simply because it's always been slow and seems to have just been elite out of virtue of who runs it, but still. There are a ton of people on Guru who want to submit questions but aren't sure what to do because they don't know if Regina will read theirs if someone posts the same thread on Guru, don't want to PM her get her pm box full and then not be heard, and refuse to GWO for obvious reasons. If this stupid Wiki discussion by people who blow shit out of proporation and take every single dying chance they get to attack Guru doesn't show you that there is a variety of people who fit in in the different fansites, then I dunno what to tell ya! GWO is good, Guru is good. I am merely asking Regina to post it on Guru so people can be heard to. It takes like 10 seconds to Copy & Paste and load the webpages. But it sends the following message: We want to hear from you. And that is reassuring to 17,000+ (minus bots/dupes) people.

Now if you can tell me how this is a bad thing (without saying anything about how Guru sucks or has terrible people, because that isn't a valid reason - something sucking is opinion and all fansites have terrible people), I'll give you a cookie! There's a lot of people waiting for this :(. Make it happen Regina! :) Also I formatted this like a forum post because it would like terrible on Wiki anyways. Also, I can just talk to people. You keep saying I am "blowing this out of proporation", yet you don't seem to understand how lax it's been on Guru from CR, and this could just be the next step etc. Paranoia? Yes. But then again, I don't like having to ask questions on GWO because it isn't on Guru for my Guru friends because of whatever reason. @Regina: Sorry about the mixup with the other topic, and if I sound like I'm angry at you or something, I'm not. :) Like I said, I'm just frustrated as a player and a bit upset, because Guru is always one of the first sites that gets tapped with this stuff because it's a) big, b) has a lot of adults at it and c) is an elite fansite with GWO. C is pretty much the biggest reason, the two elite fansites are so different in style, you kinda need to cross post the info or else you cut tons of people off. There isn't a great number of people who have active accounts on both Guru AND GWO thats for sure. DarkNecrid 05:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Meh, does not bother me. Given how GWO and GWG are different, maybe Arena Net thought GWO would be better for this kind of thing than GWG (together with the two other forums in which it was posted). Maybe they already had gathered enough questions from GWG just by reading the forum, and only made a topic about it on GWO because this kind of discussion had not been made there already. Maybe when Regina went to post the topic on GWG, the forum wasn't working properly and she decided to do it later. Or maybe Regina just likes GWO more, that's within her rights. I disagree a bit with the coments about all Elite fansites being always treated equally - it's hard to find that information, but Gaile actually had 4,068 posts in GWO and 1,871in GWG, not to mention 1,177 in TGH (which used to be an Elite fansite, too). While this does not mean Gaile likes GWO more than GWG (that's something I really, really doubt), she has posted more than twice as often in one Elite fansite than in the other, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a similar difference between GWG and the IGN forum. The forums are different - some kinds of discussions are more suited to one than to the others, some coments which may be useful in one may not aply to the other, and so on. The way to reach equality isn't pretending everything is the same, IMO; rather it's dealing differently with the things that are different in order to reach a balance in the end. Erasculio 06:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I will respond to this because I like Erasculio. :) Given the nature of GWO, it's pretty easy to know why Gaile has more posts there. I'm not talking about posts in response to other posts, though, I'm talking about equality in news, which is something that has always been there, and you know it. :) Guru and GWO are different yes - GWO is substantially more casual, Guru is substantially more in-your-face. If you're dumb on GWO, you'll at best get hinted at. Unless if it's David H. talking to you. ;) On Guru, you're going to know about it. Probably for the next 4 pages. But, they both have a fairly huge amount of adults and such who are interested in this type of thing. There are a pretty big group of people on Guru who after seeing the GWO thread are pretty interested in this but feel like they've been turned away from having a voice. Just because Guru is more in-your-face doesn't mean we aren't interested in this kind of stuff too. DarkNecrid 07:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Could not buy extra character slot

Hi Regina, today I tried to buy an extra character slot by phone, so I called "09005040340" and was told: "Service not available". Has this service been closed down? Or is it not available in all countries? --77.183.66.147 14:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)Kali The Devourer

Customer is in Germany, using 1&1 Internet AG. Have you tried: 00-44-900-504-0340? Ghosst 15:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Answer:"The number you have dialed is not used."--77.183.66.147 16:29, 25 July 2008 (UTC)Kali The Devourer

International Online Purchase or contact support would be my best suggestions. Ghosst 16:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

NCsoft Customer Support in Europe will best be able to help you with this issue. --Regina Buenaobra 18:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced in tourney

This happened to my friend last monthly, we weren't awarded points for staying through the whole swiss (in fact, we got them taken away). — Skakid 22:57, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Lame. — <;;;font color="black">ク Eloc ;貢 21:20, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

nobody cares, your running heroway. run a real build, than complain.--'ÑöẊĭƑý 07:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

You're*, then*. — Skakid 19:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

hero* way* scrub*--'ÑöẊĭƑý 05:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Don't bash on skakid because he's a terrible player. Bash on izzy for letting terrible players win. ~Shard 05:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Shard. I've never accomplished anything worth mentioning, but I classify myself as the greatest Guild Wars player/skill balancer ever. If you don't agree with my opinion, you're obviously bad. Thanks for your time, but it's going to cost you your soul to be in my presence for more than 10 seconds, because you're not worthy of looking at my greatness. — Skakid 05:48, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Skakid wins --Wild 05:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Skakid. I'm really a terrible troll, but at least I try. I'll pretend I have balls until I grow some. And I'm serious, it's going to cost you your soul to be in my presence for more than 10 seconds, because you're not worthy of looking at my greatness. 99.235.230.36 21:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Why do people troll on Regina's personal wiki page... Malchior Devenholm 04:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, i'm random IP. i maek fun of Skakid because i feel butthurt and feel cool being an anonymous Internet Tough Guy. 71.230.145.170 04:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

ppl troll on regina's page because that's where tons of ppl will see it. why troll at some obscure page where your efforts will be wasted? 71.230.145.170 04:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Nobody cares; you herowayed the entire tournament. Also, have you ever played an AT before? The tiebreakers change after the last round is over to fully calculate the winners. Your first screenshot is when the tournament was still going on. Stop being terrible, you don't deserve any trim. Lutz 01:42, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

destroyer and tormented armor

Can u plz make destroyer and tormented armor.For example destroyer armor could glow like lava and tormented armor wold give a purplish lightning colur,and bee a bit cthrough.Simpaklimp 09:13, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

their is a GW suggestions page for this. Also never gonna happen as they are all working on GW2. -- Salome 10:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just reskin FoW armor with the destroyer gloves texture style. [shrugs] This should go on the suggestions page.000.00.00.00 10:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Please give us heroes that are more useful

I hope A-Net doesn't honestly believe that most of us actually wanted another Dervish hero. How about a Mesmer hero? There are good builds in Domination, Illusion and Fast Casting/Inspiration... or maybe another Paragon because of their awesome synergy between themselves. You could also give us another Necromancer (Blood+Curses+Death+Reaping=4 headpieces) or an extra Elementalist (Air+Earth+Fire+Water=4 elements). Anyway, now that we know that A-Net can add heroes, please consider adding heroes that we would actually use. Schmerdro 20:27 12 August 2008 (UTC)

There are two Dervish heroes and two Mesmer heroes. Either could use another. Calor 20:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

And there's already 3 Elementalist and Necromancer heroes in the game, adding a 4th would be redundant really, since you can't use 4 at a time, and changing runes/inscriptions of heroes only costs a few uses of a salvage kit. A 3rd dervish, mesmer, paragon, ritualist, or assassin is more useful, I suppose. 75.146.48.190 20:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Already 3 monks, rangers and warriors too. Mesmer is the only core profession that doesn't have a 3rd hero, and all the expansion profession heros have 2. I cannont see the need for more than 3 of any given prof, unless Anet wants to let us use 7 heor,s but thats an entirely different story. Changing runes and inscs ais very easy. --Wolf 20:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Heh, and this is the GW community: "Hey, you got a new hero for free!" "zomg, I wanted one from a different profession!!!". Erasculio 21:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, about the 4 same profession heroes... I'm just lazy to change runes, so you're right I shouldn't be asking for that. But to the comment above me, I didn't ask for anything, I told them to "consider it" and I do not represent the GW community either... it's just that if they added another Mesmer or Paragon hero I would have an orgasm right here, right now, IS THAT CLEAR? I know they have to prioritize, I'm just trying to say that this should be a high-priority thingy. I also don't want the next hero to be an assassin or something >_> (just in case there is another extra hero). By the way, also keep in mind that few people actually asked for an extra hero... people have been asking for more weapons in HoM, bigger hero cap per player, etc. so I would guess that adding a hero wasn't particularly difficult. I don't know, I would just like a reply from an official source. Schmerdro 01:32 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Understand that this is a wiki and anyone hast the right reply to or edit anything, not just "official sources." Secondly, you say that you're not trying to represent the community as a whole, but in your original edit you say, "I hope A-Net doesn't honestly believe that most of us actually wanted another Dervish hero." Comments like this make it seem like you're speaking for everyone. Also, more weapons for the HoM are coming, and it's not your place to say where ArenaNet's priorities should be, unless of course you work for them. Arbitrarily dictating what is "easy" and what is "difficult" is something that you don't know, either, so when you make comments like that, it makes you seem very ungrateful. Just some advice for the future, so don't take it too personally. Kokuou 03:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

On a side note, I'd like to thank Anet for not abandoning GW to focus on GW2, and still balancing GW (the 8/8/08 update), fixing bugs, and introducing new content. Calor 21:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

2nded. I dont need any more heros than I currently have, but If they wanna give us more free content, thats cool =D --Wolf 21:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I set each hero for one combination of attributes: 1 for fire magic, 1 for air magic, 1 for sword, 1 for axe, 1 for death magic, etc, etc. So, for me, the only ones left are: 1 ele, 1 assassin, 1 ritualist and 1 paragon.

What about making those that Have Prophecies and Eye of the North get 1 Female Elementalist Doppleganger, those that also have Nightfall 1 Male Paragon Dopplegangrer.

And then 1 Tengu Assassin for those with Factions+EotN and 1 Naga Ritualist for those with Factions, Nigthfall and Eye of the North...

That would be sweet... I could set runes for each elemental attribute in 1 hero... hm... MithTalk 15:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

anet gives out a new hero for free and about the first reaction is like "QQ its not an ele hero" wth, you can't even use more than 3 ele heroes at the same time anyway. --AnorithTalk 17:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

There were many factors in the decision to make Mox a Dervish. The designers first looked at all the Professions where there were only two Heroes represented. They had to choose from: Assassin, Dervish, Mesmer, Paragon, or Ritualist. Looking at the list, the designers decided that the Dervish made the most sense as a Profession for a golem. --Regina Buenaobra 17:37, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

[coughs] So... the designers bring more Dervish love... nice ^_^ the geek inside me is pleased with this ^_^ 000.00.00.00 18:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Now I need to find on which mule I left my trusty banana scythe. -- Alaris 18:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Tsss gotto use that Mallyx Scythe that has the banana scythe skin :D Jaxom 20:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Lol! I didn't know you could get a max-dmg banana scythe! That is way too funny. -- Alaris 20:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

After all, Mallyx is just a huge shiny baboon on steroids. MithTalk 22:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

One for Orders... another for... o.O? idk. 203.212.156.151 05:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Incidentally, the golems in Eye of the North are all Dervishes anyway, so the decision doesn't surprise me at all. Unfortunately most Dervish builds require PvE-only skills which heroes can't take, but you can't win 'em all I guess. -- 202.27.210.83 11:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

A big part of the decision was that the golems look odd as ranged characters as all their anims are more melee in nature. So we wanted to go with a melee class and felt that Dervish would be the best way to go. I don't know why people think Dervishes in PvE are so bad. It boggles my mind. I would take a Dervish over a Warrior any day for PvE (they do AoE!!) and frequently do. AND they are great in undead areas with all the readily available holy damage. You people crazy. :P - Linsey talk 15:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't use warriors either. But yes, on the few times I did use melee (in PUGs mostly), warriors and dervishes were interchangeable. -- Alaris 16:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's not that I don't like Dervishes. It's that I make female-only parties... with the sole exception of Little Thom, of course. I have Melonni, why should I use a genderless hulk? But I have no female elementalist. And since it's a shame having that cool doppleganger model only in Augury Rock, and there are four elements, and since I use Zhed for Water, Vekk for Air and Sousuke for Fire, a female doppleganger elementalist would be AWESOME as a hero! I could set Sousuke for Earth and use her as fire elementalist. MithTalk 19:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I would rather take a warrior with a scythe myself. The high base damage of scythes along with the armor-penetrating aspect of strength really boosts the damage output. Here's the build I usually run. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 19:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Love my Dervish but do notice she is not preferred in many area's. Am happy M.O.X. will be dervish and anticipate his "Update". Since this is the only know new content for GW i am looking forward to him. --Silverleaf 11:45, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Maybe a new festival in GW?

Hi Regina and eweryone!^^ I think Guild Wars is the greatest mmo in the world, and I've been playing since factions. However, I think it shines the most when its a festival! Thats GW when its best! So I just wondered, how come ya dont have a festival this time a year? Late in summer, its the perfect time for some partying^^ And, how would it sound with a "title festival"?!? A festival where ya can exchange your festival points (that you get from some cool quests^^) for stuff for your title (such as sweets, alcohol or part items) and and you will get your title points tripled or something?! And ofcourse, a cool mask in the end! I really think a festival like that really would help people like me that has trouble with maxing titles, and loooove festivals in GW! This time of year really needs a festival! So, what do ya guys think of my idea?:))))

Megalodon 01:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Interesting, has potential. --Wolf 03:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

You could call it "Love Day".Cassie 08:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad 2 hear that people like my idea^^Megalodon 13:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't forget luck, unluck, wisdom... Sounds like a lot of fun. Especially triple luck/unluck at the Boardwalk. -- Alaris 13:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

And maybe one of the things ya can exchange for festivalpoints is little, useless goldplates, whos only use is that u indentify 'em for your wisdom title? Megalodon 19:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Indian Summer Festival :). --Silverleaf 20:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and little chests that you can open with lockpicks for the Treasure hunter title!:)Megalodon 20:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm really happy that people respons so good to this, check my page for details!^^ But I would be even more happyer if you, Regina, please say what you think of my idea!;) Megalodon 21:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) If they plan to add a festival, I want something with this as a reference. --MageMontu 21:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC) eww disgusting. this is much better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_ninja#Day_of_the_Ninja--Yankeefan984 15:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

UW

I ended up on a regular basis with players who take all the UW quests at once in order to make a party die or resign. Since I am the one paying the entrance it cost them nothing. I also know that ANet encourage players to play with guildies as much as possible to avoid this kind of situation. But what if we like to PUG ? The day you offer to play on a server with mature players only for 20$ per month I suscribe immediatly. Yseron - 90.28.207.190 12:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Even if we were paying it doesn't mean the quality of player would be any better. Probably would get worse. 000.00.00.00 12:29, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Why would it get worse for people that are paying more and thus care more? o.o Vael Victus 11:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

You will alwqays have the idiot with too much time and money on their hands that will join the servers just to mess with everyone and skrew things up. WoW has tons of people like that. It would nto end up pretty, trust me. Most of the good and mature GW players dont play very often, and play GW b/c they don't have the cash for WoW. --Wolf 16:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

If no action is taken to at least know who triggered which quest I'm going to murder someone. That's the 6th consecutive time I gracefully pay the entrance and a random player (or players ?) take all the quests at once because they know there is a bug with the invincible aaxtes that will force us to resign. Yseron - 81.251.151.6 17:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Not sure which PuGs you're going in with, but perhaps you should choose your teams better, discuss quests beforehand, or maybe even not be the one paying so you don't lose your precious 1k (or scroll). Guild teams are also good. I've done UW quite a bit, and I haven't had nearly the number of problems you're describing. Seriously, though, this one little "problem" doesn't really warrant a request to make the game subscription-based, which, in my opinion, wouldn't really solve the problem, anyway. Kokuou 18:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

here is an idea don't worry about 1k seeing you can get 1k in about 1 min. other then that don't pay to go in if your with PUG's.75.172.47.109

Personally, I'm curious which bug with the invincible ataxes Yseron is referring to. While I'm not a 'regular' in the UW, to my knowledge, there are no bugs with them, they work just as they are supposed to. Dargon 16:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Maybe this part taken from Vengeful Aatxe has to do with it, "The only way to destroy Vengeful Aatxes is to slay the Keeper of Souls accompanying the group of Vengefuls. After the Keeper of Souls is dead the group of Vengeful Aatxes with him will die immediately if not aggroed. If the players have aggroed the Vengefuls they need to break aggro after which the instant death will trigger." Some people consider the italicized part to be a bug and that they should die as soon as the Keeper of Souls die. --68.32.187.152 22:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The next time ANet state that socialisation is an important aspect of the game I give them a virtual kick in their virtual nuts. I now exclusively play with alliance/guildies. God knows I tried to play with pugs... Yseron - 81.251.151.6 18:28, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

But you are socialising if you're playing with Guild/Alliance members. Not all pugs are bad either, granted there are some extremely bad people out there, who at the drop of the hat can kill the fun for everyone else but I haven't seen that many that extreme. 000.00.00.00 18:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I think they've abandoned that rationale, in one of the interviews it was stated that PvE in Guild Wars 2 is intended to be fully henchable. -- Gordon Ecker 05:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Thats odd as didnt they also state they were abandoning the hero/hench system in GW2 -- Salome 05:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

They call it the "side kicking" system, you can have only one sidkick at a time. Excepted for some instances, the game will be designed for soloing and the possibility to form the grp "on the fly" with mobs grps scaling...until they change their mind again. Yseron - 90.28.213.31 10:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Diablo 2b anyone? Ghosst • Talk • 12:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm a bit torn. In WoW, I'd constantly be dealing with people I didn't like, because I was forced to party with them for instances. In that aspect, though, it was kinda nice when the groups did succeed. I suppose, ultimately, I'd rather have the whole thing be henchable, much like I'm pretty much refusing to PvE in GW until I can have 7 heroes because I simply don't want to party with others and want to actually use the 200,000 fscking gold I've got to make them better. Vael Victus 17:33, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

The anonymous poster is getting the companion system and the sidekick system confused with eachother. Companions will apparently be the replacement for heroes. You will only be able to bring out one at a time, they will not occupy party slots, and there will be some sort of buff for characters who don't bring companions in order to make bringing companions optional rather than mandatory. There will also be something similar to City of Heroes' sidekick system buffing low level characters who join parties with higher level characters. I was also mistaken. It seems that I also confused information from multiple sources GamesRadar's Guild Wars 2 - updated impressions article it will be possible to join some form of AI party and there will be an experience bonus for playing with actual people, and according to Guild Wars 2 wiki's English translation of Pc Games' German Guild Wars 2: Der Status Quo - 10 Fakten auf einen Blick + Interview! article) quests are designed for solo player and will scale with party size. I can't find anything explicit about whether or not the instanced storyline misisons will be soloable. -- Gordon Ecker 03:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Whatever the details are you get the idea: you will not be too much dependent on other players, but will be able to continue to pug. Yseron - 86.64.70.44 12:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Glad you're here gordon, saves me writing that long post explaining side kick / companion system. When it all comes down to it, we dont have a clue what they have planned so how about we stop with the GW2 hate before we even know what to hate it about? -- Salome 13:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but at the same time, Anet is holding back most info, but when a game company releases info well ahead of release date, it should be to get people excited...but a lot of info they've been releasing sounds quite a bit unlike GW1, including persistant areas and gameplay geared towards solo gameplay. The reason GW2 is getting a lot of hate is because of the drastic 180 change from these two major attributes which attracted me (and many other people) to GW1. At the same time, I try to keep an open mind, and the release/beta is miles away, so I agree, hate is a bit unnecessary right now, nervousness is more appropriate haha.-Warior Kronos 14:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

they will never add new : armor, pets, skills, areas, or anything of that sort to the game. It's just too much work with only 2-3 people working on GW1--'ÑöẊĭƑý 18:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I have reported the Vengeful Aatxe scripting bug at ArenaNet talk:Quest bugs#Unwanted Guests: Vengeful Aatxe scripting issue. -- Gordon Ecker 08:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful, maybe now players who are new to the UW will understand it better. --68.32.187.152 07:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I beg your pardon? Pay to Play GW-UW? 20$ a month?? Make the game for RL-rich players only? No thank you. And i mean NO THANK YOU! The power of GW is all kind of players can enter when they bought the box. And all can be what they want to become in-game according to skill development and tiime spend in-game. NO l33t access for it would kill the community. --Silverleaf 12:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

You didn't understand what he said. He wants to keep the servers like usual, except to have an extra server with access limited to those who subscribe. So those who pay and those who don't will end up on different servers. I also oppose the idea, but because I don't think the population should be fragmented that way. Mature players already get into mature Guilds and Alliances, and don't feel obligated to pay 20$ just to be amongst their peers. -- Alaris 15:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Alaris there, subscription has nothing to do with maturity anyway- I've seen a few pay-to-play games and I can guarantee you that they're just as full of idiots who enjoy ruining a game for others. That said, it would have to be one hell of a good game to be worth paying $20 a month for. I can afford it easily, and I like the thought of seeing more mature players, but I don't think that alone is worth it, and that's not even a guarantee that the game itself will be any good. Let's face it, that's $240 a year, and spread over 3 years that's $720... I can think of better ways to spend that amount of money, and while Guild Wars is a great game, I don't think it's worth quite that much.

Anyway... I've probaby said it before, but I'll say it again... if you think PuGs are too risky, and you're still willing to try and venture outside of your guild, I'd be more than happy to come with you, and I promise I won't force you to resign / steal your loot / whatever else it is griefers do these days. Any area you'd like to do I'm up for. Not saying I'm the best player in the world, but I'm always up for meeting fun new (and mature) people in game to play with- UW or elsewhere. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who feels that way. Give me a holler. :) -- Elv 11:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Obelisk Lightning-

Is Broken. It does feeble, unnoticeable damage and does not interrupt. Obelisk Lightning Check the Discussion.

~Phill Gaston ‎ 07:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

75 damage and interupt would make me care about it again. Vael Victus 13:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

yeah cuz that'd be very balanced --Blood Anthem 17:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I know. That's why I said it. oo; Vael Victus 01:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Diablo 3

I really, really, really hope GW2 will beat Diablo 3. I freakin' hate it when my friends say Diablo is awesome! WOW! look at that! I am so gonna get Diablo 3! It is so much better than Guild Wars! I realy hate it. So please, please make GW2 the most bad ass game on earth. (I'm the biggest fan of Guild wars btw =) ) --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:69.153.134.196 (talk).

Diablo 3 will be awesome and will come out before Guildwars2 how do i know this you might ask 1. blizzard knows that to make a good game it takes time. 2. they have no idea when they are going to be able to beta guild wars2. 3. they have not released any sort of screen shots of guild wars 2 or game play video, which just goes to show that its still a long long way off. 4. Diablo 3 and Guildwars2 are 2 completely different games, when it comes to style. Diablo is much much darker, then guild wars diablo 3 will probably be rated m where guild wars 2 will most likely be rated T. 5. diablo isn't going to be a mmorpg like guild wars is and wont require a monthly fee as far as we know(just going off the past diablo games, and so they can rease guild wars way before it will be Ready because they know they can put out huage patches. just look at screen shots from guild wars in 2005 compared to now yes a lot looks different but a lot looks the same. but they also added a lot of stuff. case and point Diablo is completely different then guild wars.75.172.43.90 09:40, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I really, really, really hope GW2 will beat Need for Speed XIII. I haven't seen any of the cars that are planned for GW2 though so it might be close. Sadie2k 20:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I hope that GW2 will beat Barbie Pony MMO. I haven't seen any of the pink-haired ponies that are planned for GW2 though so it might be close. --Ravious 16:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

i really really hope Guild wars 2 is exactly like Hello Kitty Island Adventure, that game is just sooo epic. or maybe even Heroin Hero its the ultimate first person shooter.75.172.43.90 21:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Both Guild Wars 2 and Diablo 3 will suck compared to Dawn of War 2. ^_^ There I said it. [runs off shouting] "For the Emperor!" 000.00.00.00 22:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

He who stands with me shall be my brother. Dude, Dawn Of War 2 is gunna be awesome. [runs after Zero shouting] "FOR THE EMPEROR!" --Wolf 23:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

And once I've finished playing the awesomeness as it was intended to be play, I get to play with mod tools, which will be awesome. Something Guild Wars will never have, thus why I think I don't fully enjoy Guild Wars anymore. [grabs an Elder] "I have come to destroy you!" [flamethrower to the face] Epic! 000.00.00.00 19:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

If you like to play with SDKs here is a cool idea for you: make a guild wars mod for doom3 and unleash your favorite skills on the monsters. Yseron - 86.209.194.37 20:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

DUDE! Relic makes EPIC Cinamatics! AND THE NIDS! AHHH! MUST! PLAY! Lol. Dude, I wanna see them re-make the Dawn Of War original opening cinamatic, but a larger scale battle. --Wolf 22:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Diablo is awesome ... but ... that's not a reason not to bother with GW2. The games do share some similarities, but they're likely to play very, very differently. If you like both, buy both... if that's not an option it comes down to whether you like MMO or hack+slash more. It's a personal choice. -- Sirius (talk) 14:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Different games, both generally worthy of my gaming money. If it's good, they'll buy it. And both Blizzard and ANet have proven their worth. -- Alaris 00:45, 28 August 2008 (UTC)