User talk:Shard/Unfair/Archive1

Rant

no, you just make 50 battlecruisers in 20 mins thats all. --adrin 21:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

You resign when there are two or more monks in the same team with you in RA. You resign when there are no monks with you in RA. You leave the game after the round is over if people don't want to resign or there are idiots on your team. You play in korean districts because people generally follow the abovementioned accepted guidelines to RA, thus saving everyone's time. The two monks did the right thing by resigning because one ele and one ranger tend NOT to outpressure any team with a half-decent monk. You would have saved a lot of time by resigning with them.Pika Fan 21:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

No, YOU resign when there are two or more monks in RA. I'm not a shit player, so I actually play the game. I only resign when I know I've lost. ~Shard 22:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

No, CONSIDERATE people resign when there are two or more monks in RA because dragging each match to tiebreaker is just a waste of everyone's time and achieves little. Seeing as you are not, I will just leave it at that. Pika Fan 07:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I was on three three-monk teams in a row yesterday. Two got dragged to tiebreaker because the non-monk wouldn't resign (the A/D thought he could solo the other party?), both other monks in the third game raged. Most RA players aren't considerate, sadly. =/

"We fight a team with a scythe warrior (who I solo because I heal more with my damage skill that he damages with his damage skills.)" I lold. Raine - talk 08:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Shard, you poor victim. --71.229.253.172 08:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Complain less. None of these scenarios occured to me while playing. You're just exaggerating again just to flame Anet again. Dark Morphon 11:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Not to be rude, but I think Dark Morphon has a point. I've been doing ra cause of the bonus weekend and nothing like this has happened yet. Again, I'm not trying to be rude, but if you hate the game this much, why are you still playing? TO flame ANET? Cause they don't care.. Sentry007 16:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

You probably haven't run into these situations because you play with scrubs in american districts. Not to be rude, but all of this happened. Why would I write something like this and make it up? If I was going to make up a story, I could do a better job than this. ~Shard 07:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Sure, some of these things happen at times. But they don't happen as much as you're trying to say. I've played RA recently and encountered none of these problems. If that means I'm playing with American scrubs, then I'd rather do so than playing with people that run only gimmicky builds. Dark Morphon 15:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

You'll have to explain to me why a build is overpowered when someone else runs it and suddenly doesn't work when you play it... 145.94.74.23 13:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

That's why it's called Build Wars. And this scenario is all too familiar. XD --Underwood 21:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

This sounds like a lot of fun compared to TA. I should RA more. Also, Backfire wins against sins. It punishes them for self-heals, shadow steps, DD, etc!... Vili >8< 03:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Nah, bro, Backfire is for wammos. --Riddle 03:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Defy Pain is not a spell (unfortunately). Vili >8< 04:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Who remembers when Zealot's fire worked with stances?

So pro. If only they had glad points back then. My glad rank could mean nothing like everybody else's. ~Shard 04:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Was that before, or after Zealot's Fire was changed to fire damage? :D Vili >8< 05:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Probably before. It was a long time ago. I believe it was the same update Ether Renewal got nerfed. ~Shard 22:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

this is hillarious, definitively keep making this page. And it makes me grind my teeth, same reasons why you probably did.--66.192.104.13 16:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I did not know inspired hex existed,thanks for the tip. I don't play as mesmer, have never tried it, but SF a whole team in RA....Boy is it fun....when I do it, anyways...<:|--Wealedout 13:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

You're so wrong.

I farm rating in chess using the danish opening all the time. gfg.Oni 12:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Lol, if you can't even interrupt VoR and Empathy by looking at the field you shouldn't be playing Ranger. Even I can do better. Tbh, don't complain about other players if you play failingly yourself. Xhata 12:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

"I interrupted Empathy and he fastcasted VoR". You wanna interrupt a HCT VoR with a bow? Cuz that would be pretty pro. Raine - talk 16:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Interrupting VoR at a 0.75¾ cast time under dshot's 0.75¾ second aftercast delay is indeed a cool story bro. --Cursed Angel 17:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Just be really pro. Xhata 15:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention that you cast empathy on a fucking dd sin. Didn't him wielding a staff and having /me or /mo as a secondary KIIIIIIIIIIIIND of show that he wasnt a meele sin? You're terrible. TERRIBLERGH.Oni 12:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Our drama lama is back GET TO THE BUNKERZZZZ Lilondra *panda* 18:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Unless you feel like making someone feel stupid or informed I guess, it's not worth the time to respond to people who choose to be ignorant. That would be why you aren't getting responses.~>Sins WDB 17:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Battlecruisers

Or Worse, getting owned by Protoss's Carriers. That shit is broken.--ShadowFog 03:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Marine-Firebat-Medic rush FTW --Riddle 03:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Goliaths tear that crap to shreds. -- Wandering Traveler 14:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

RTS's suck, Blizzard sucks, end of story. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.64.8.217 (talk).

That IP is a Warcraft III player. Dont deny it!--ShadowFog 15:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Nope. Blizzard sucks. I already tried the Warcraft III demo and uninstalled the piece of crap on the same day. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.64.8.217 (talk).

IP is probably from the GDI scum!--ShadowFog 20:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

He doesn't like RTS's likely because he fails at them. ~Shard 21:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

TBH

You should have beaten him. Only one self heal, which is DS food (unless your ping is really bad), and when he could easily been on the ground for about half the fight, there really is no excuse to lose to that. Maybe you're just losing your touch, because I've seen my guildies destroy opponents in the same sort of scenario, 1v1. King Neoterikos 00:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

And he didn't have any kd skills, so unless he had some sort of blind or something, there really is no excuse... King Neoterikos 00:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Alternatively, assassins are overpowered faggots. --Jette 01:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow. I don't have any fame points. Do my foes know how to breath? --85.64.128.31 07:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

That's the point - I should have beaten him. He got off shadow refuge once during the fight (he also put it up in preparation). He was left with practically no health when I died, but still, the point is a player using skills effectively should never lose to someone who is mashing buttons (he was using parts of his chain after I interrupted their requisites). In my defense... I was on a pve who doesn't have all its runes (health in lower 500s), but still... ~Shard 08:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Shadow Refuge is strong and brave. Raine - talk 15:38, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

and yet

they lost, so stop whining. --86.174.66.143 09:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

This isn't about winning. This is about Game. Balance. You know that thing? Btw, at the true spirit, I bring to you:

You fail to understand the basics of game balance. Please read this article.

. Titani Ertan 09:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

But they did lose! Wtf, couldnt you at least get a screenie where AotL wins a match with 20+ minions or something? Would make a stronger impact. --Super Igor flame my shove sin bar! 23:30, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Igor, it's a well known fact that you're a moron when it comes to both guild wars and game balance. Quit before you hurt yourself any more. ~Shard 23:37, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

You should have just stopped after "moron" tbh. --Jette 00:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Ye ye start insulting you seem to be unable to reply with anything more civil (just don't call me a moron that would would be a hypocricy). Also I wasn't talking about balance side of things (reading comprehension ftw) I'm saying that whining about a skill and showing a screenie where it loses is just funny. --Super Igor flame my shove sin bar! 10:16, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to point out the lapse in your logic. I'm going to make this as clear as I can. I want you to read it three times. I'm not joking, you need to read this three times.

"whining about a skill and showing a screenie where it loses is just funny"

An overpowered skill/build should not be ignored simply because it has lost once.

Do you understand now? My argument is not "This wins too much." My argument is "This is a poor example of high-level competition." Do you see why nothing you've said has any relevance to this page? ~Shard 10:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Minions are srs fkn bsns --Super Igor flame my shove sin bar! 10:27, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't be a moron, Shard. Talking to Igor is about as productive as staring at a wall. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 15:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

But I'm tired of staring at walls! Titani Ertan 16:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Ten bucks said he got through "I'm going to point," then his brain got overloaded, so he resorted to his usual stupidity. ~Shard 21:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Who? There are 6 posters in this thread. Titani Ertan 21:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh gosh how did I dare not to take Shard's highly sophisticated bullshit seriously I am doomed. --Super Igor flame my shove sin bar! 10:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

on the other hand....

You have to admit they are kinda cute. --Jette 08:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

All minions are cute. They also make funny noises when they explode, sending poison everywhere. Titani Ertan 08:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Xunlai Neverland:

Grats on that. --Boro 18:24, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Xunlai Market

It's probably just an excuse for not wanting to ^^ I wonder if a player made it for them and emailed it to them if they would implement it C4K3 Talk 20:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

/agree. And if someone emailed them, they'd probably pull out some BS excuses like it wouldn't work,or theirs not enough people to set the thing up, or it'd take up too much sever space, or more Anet BS. 24.233.254.51 04:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Probably C4K3 Talk 17:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

not true, linsey has been asked a year ago about what would she want to add to the game the most, the response was an auction house - Wuhy 02:13, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

eBay could make SO MUCH MONEY if they opened their services to MMO players, so you could buy & sell stuff for in-game cash, which is automatically transferred so scamming is unpossible. Seriously. So much money. They have unlimited disposable bandwidth as it is anyway. Imagine if every MMO was programmed to work with it. So much money. --Jette 05:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

This explains how the database and such of GW works and why it's probably too much work for them at this point and time. DarkNecrid 12:31, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

And this explains how they can do it in one day. ~Shard 21:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

mysql connection error --Jette 21:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

RoM

It's the same all across MMORPG: the healer gets blames without consideration of what he did/does. Of course, it's not the healer's fault about... almost anytime. People should learn to have a brain. Titani Ertan {{Snappy the Turtle}} 21:33, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

That tank clearly isn't familiar with such complex thing... - J.P.Talk 21:40, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why this goes under unfair really. It's more like "noobs that blame others for their failures." Chain stunning is funny too. Wizard 101 had the same problem in PvP where the stuns were mostly AoE and did wtfbigdomages. I'm not fond of RoM since most of the bosses 1 hit anyone that is not a Knight.--Underwood 21:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Ragnarok Online was fun until I had to get into parties and discovered that the majority of the people were amazingly stupid, and just played to kill jelly. Titani Ertan {{Snappy the Turtle}} 21:57, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I tank in WoW. I never blame the healer. Because of that, I rarely have troubles finding the other half of the party (the healer). As it turns out, sometimes the tank makes mistakes. If they blame the healer, they will fail to learn. StatMan 03:08, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

People with brain advance. People without brains get Power Level'd and die from level 4 mobs. Titani Ertan {{Snappy the Turtle}} 11:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Just noticed your newest update: I don't really know about you, but making a five minute spell recharge in a game where you can only have 8 skill slots.... who would take it? You can make better use of that slot. I still agree that this invincibility is overpowered, but look at all the skills that have more than 30 seconds recharge: they have their duration to match. Titani Ertan {{Snappy the Turtle}} 11:37, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

k. is for Raine, etc. 06:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

RoM

I played since cb and never EVER seen such behaviour. :o Anyway, did they make you heal as M/P at Bernok? oO --Super Igor flame my shove sin bar! 10:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes that was it. I think I'll wait until I'm level 30ish. ~Shard 20:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Your comment about Holy Aura and Ether Prism reminded me of what I consider the most significant balance mistake in the history of Guild Wars: using limited skill bar space as a balancing factor. A skill with a 5 minute cooldown would need to be obscenely powerful to be worth the opportunity cost of tying up 1/8 of your skill bar, and it's difficult to balance skills with narrow niches such as countering shouts or ritualists against skills with broadly applicable niches such as damage, healing or interruption. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:02, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with that. The only reason why a huge cooldown works as a balancing factor, is if there is no limit to the amount of skills you can bring. But I'm sure Shard knew that...145.94.74.23 06:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Y'know, that's interesting, because I find that limited skill slots adds life to the game and makes (or at least made, before only 40-50 skills were viable) finding new builds an actually important part of playing. But like Auron once told me, since we can only carry around 8 skills instead of 12-15, there's no room (for example) on an ele bar to bring both Make Haste and Song of Concentration. Perhaps the design would have worked better if we had, say, 10 skills, two from column A (elites or equivalent), five from column B (staple skills), three from column C (niche skills), and a "free" slot for a res? (Default to res sig, but could be replaced by any other res skill, or something like that.) Obviously, numbers would need tweaking here and there, but I'm interested as to thoughts on the general idea. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 06:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I always thought of having 9 skill slots. The extra skill slot is for the Build Wars you never encounter or the shittiest skills that you never find room for. Titani Ertan {{Snappy the Turtle}} 06:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Shard You already have more exp on RoM then I do since I didn't play it for that long but Why did you go priest instead of mage ? Mage is the ace class.Seriously if you go on a PvP sever just watch how many times you'll get fragged by a mage if your a non*mage class by the time YOU GET CLOSE you're dead Lilondra *poke* 07:17, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm a mage primary, priest secondary. When Adrin and I were starting and I got my new spells, I was 1-hitting things and he was like "mages are imba dude" lol. ~Shard 01:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I kinda noticed that when I was lvl 2 :p Lilondra *poke* 06:26, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

M/P aren't supposed to be rimary healers in rom, unless they have uber equipment and even then they lose out on buffs. :o Kinda late here but w/e. xP Nectarines // 17:45 26 September 2009(UTC)

FF7

I have avoided the game for many years because of the weirdos it attracts (I know I have that .jpg of like six people with sephiroth tattoos somewhere on my hard drive between the pictures making fun of furries and the ones making fun of teenage girls, but I'll be damned if I can find it), but if it's anywhere near that awesome I will pick up a copy. Hm, that's two games to keep my occupied this week. —Jette 10:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

hahaha those are some of the best spoilers I've ever read. "The Junon cannon is slightly larger than Tifa's boobs." made me spit my food out with laughter. --MageMontu 10:52, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Made me lol. Good stuff. -- NUKLEAR IIV 17:18, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

HB

So true. The only time I've had fun in HB was exploiting a hero AI bug where when under the effects of Visions of Regret + Backfire spellcaster heroes would refuse to use any spell (and use anything else so sparingly it hardly matters) even if they had tons of hex removal or w/e by using 2 VoR + Backfire/Empathy Mes/War heroes with Frenzied Defense, standard HB WoH Monk, and I was a Mind Blast ele. At the time, the most popular setup was 2 Monk heroes with Assassin leads (back when SoH was good), so I'd just micro the VoR mes's each on different Monk heroes, and then spam the Mind Blast bar skills on the Monk heroes while they just stand there and take it like idiots. The only reason it was fun is because most random people don't micro so they just wonder WHY AM I SUDDENLY NOT GETTING HEALED???? and also because I actually fought instead of capped in Hero Battles. DarkNecrid 11:47, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Henchmen contest

All of the discussions about this topic have been moved to a new page here. ~Shard 03:03, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

quote from shard: IWIN

Congratz --Boro 12:21, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Blackout names

Aww, you know you have my personal consent to use my image, and my ranger's image in your screenies. I'm like Paris Hilton, I have no shame about publicity.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 15:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

And included my <3 Harold Ramis stuff too...he also deserves publicity for his awesomeness.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 15:36, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

lol yeah i want props. also, you can't mention h****d r***s on the wiki, it's a copyvio. --adrin 17:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

So what exactly are you trying to prove with the CA unfair ? Basicly 6 wins doesn't exactly guarantee a awesome build :/ If your point is don't complain adjust then tbh I don't know why you still complained about hexway and stuff aswell since you can adjust.CA needs some change mainly because teams without conditionremoval don't function against EDA and shizzles.just sayin Lilondra 18:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

People: "herp derp, healing skillz are bad in CA"

Shard: "If they are so bad, why take them?"

People: "hurrrr, you need a healer, durrrrrh"

Shard: "no you don't, I just frawressed your mom's face without a healer."

Understand now? --RIDDLE 18:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

People: "herp derp, ViM boonprot doesn't work in RA"

ME: "Yes it does !"

People: "hurrrr, you need certain superhealbareliteofallnotsomuchdoom"

Me: "no you don't, I just got 6 cons with it.Of wich some were flawless."

Understand now ? Lilondra 18:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Did you? --RIDDLE 18:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

ViM as in victory is mine? --adrin 18:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Obv ^^ Going to a Steady stance one soon :) Lilondra 18:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

i hurd u cant take ViM as a monk....... o wait u said RA --adrin 18:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

My point was that wins doesn't equal a good build or a valid point.Nothing else.Lilondra 18:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

It's not the fact that he won, it's the fact that without the healer he was still able to compete and not be utterly boned, as some people say you are without the healer. --RIDDLE 18:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

How was that not obvious ? Taking stances and selfheals isn't exactly new Lilondra 19:00, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

We were winning at least 80% of our matches. It's not like those runs were our lucky ones. We got at least 4 in a row every run. 80% victory isn't chance. ~Shard 19:07, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Did you run Its just a flesh wound on your para or what did you do to deal with eDA ? Enchant strip ? Lilondra 19:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

No EDA yesterday. Just armor of sanctity. Para had some elite spear attack I think. Derv was reapers sweep. ~Shard 20:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Do I have to contact Harold Ramis' management to say I <3 him? /rage...I can't handle the heartbreak.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 04:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Wich already explains alot.My point is that even if you do get a 80% win (wich is nice yh but nog spectacular) how does it prove that CA isn't rly bad atm and if your point is to adjust then well doesn't that basically apply to all formats ? Lilondra 05:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I thinks it's more of "It's bad, it doesn't help you win and you still bitch about it. Stop bitching about it.", amirite? Titani Ertan 17:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Bad meta trends make entire communities bad. ...but what I don't get is how they won so much without a Rit either. I mean bringing a monk when the skills suck is like saying "spike me first plz!" ...but they won THAT much without Rt/* or Me/* ??? And Don't even try blaming it on PvE newbs swamping the arena either, they all cleared by the second day. --ilr 20:52, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Codex arena doesn't exactly have a mindblast mode feature.Basicly this means that melee damage reigns.Block stances+selfheals are pretty effective.Imagine a escape ranger with Heal Sig.Heal sig gets even stronger if you don't have to cancelout the dshot Lilondra 21:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

6 CONSECUTIVE

FUCK... 6... FUCK... --Frosty 18:39, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

FROSTY NO CURSING Lilondra 18:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

lolcurses --Frosty 18:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

reported --adrin 18:52, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

50 consec with glimmer monk is stronger. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I like to play at dead hour too.--Underwood 07:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I got 49 the first day. When there isn't one skill that > everything else, it's pretty easy to win. ~Shard 07:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Wonder if I'm horrible and that's why we aren't getting more than 4 consec--Underwood 07:52, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I got 50 consec the first day Codex was open. You're just a terrible shitter. Get over it. =/ ··· Danny Pew Pew 17:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm suprised you haven't been banned more even if it were just for the fun of it Lilondra 17:57, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm surprised you're able to breathe with all that passive aggression building up inside, but hey. ;o ··· Danny Pew Pew 18:14, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

wait what ? Lilondra 18:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

<3 Harold Ramis

Bless his heart because tonight would have been worse if I hadn't been watching GB during our Dhuum encounter. And my Para has pro skillz thnx.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 09:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

"This building should be condemned"

"This place is GREAT! You gotta try that pole! When can we move in? I'm gonna go get my stuff!!!" ~Shard 09:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

So let me get this straight... the whole point of the first Dhuum stages is for your players to die and then get a "I got a Super Metroid for a Pet" /slash/ "Jumping off a tower in COD4" /slash/ "I'm Exhausted now, I WIN"** TACTIC...?? (**-from pretty much every major battle ever, Al'a Bleach/Naruto animus) --ilr 23:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Basically yeah. Completely defeats the purpose of character classes, party formation, skills and builds. I refused to do it like that, and I was the only person in our party who didn't die and become a spirit...of course I was a paragon, and that is like cheating, but still...--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 23:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

On an unrelated note, the Shiro fight has degenerated to being soloable by a sin and only ever run by such. Is that what you want Underworld to become, Shard? Oh, wait. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 14:55, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Making each class have different skills would suck just as much, because as you know, Anet fails at balancing so ofc a few classes will have complete shit skills while the others are good to go and more desirable. Class discrimination much?--98.238.169.189 19:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

That reminds me of the one thing I don't like about FF6/FF3 (in the US on SNES for those who don't know). If you've played it then you are aware that at the start, only 2 characters--Celes and Terra--can use magic. The other characters all have special skills and abilities (Sabin has his blitz attacks, Locke can steal, Mog can dance/sing like a bard) but mid way through, all of the characters can learn magic from Espers and eventially, magic is all you will use (4 characters casting Ultima basically pwns everything) and that made me sad playing it, where as in FF4/2 Rydia and Rosa played certain party roles as casters, Kain and Cecil as melee, and god knows I did use all of their various skills or in FF3 the job system let you determine what kind of character you wanted to make them be (red mage, thief, white mage) which was brilliant fun. And thats the fun of RPGs--each class having certain abilities that you cater to for one reason or another. GW has slowly become uniform with the stupidity of PvE skills where choosing your character class is only cosmetic. I think for GW2 they should learn the lesson and just not bother making classes. Make everyone the same, just customizable by appearance and gender, that way I don't think I'm playing something I'm not. --*Yasmin Parvaneh* 19:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Or, they could get their game right and not fuck it up with PvE skills? NuVII 19:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Ow Nuke,sometimes you have these insane ideas! Lilondra 19:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, ideally, the point of having classes is so team work can be executed--you know, just like in sports how each person does something that contributes to over all tactics and that person's strengths. But then again, that makes sense.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 19:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

@lil I KNO, RITE? why doesn't anyone read my rants? :( NuVII 19:47, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Choosing my class is only cosmetic? Every class can spam SY + TNTF now? -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 23:47, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

When we did UW the other night we were spamming 3 or 4 copies of save yourself. My para had it, Shard had it, Adrin's sin had it and Qaletaqa had it, so pretty much, yes.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 23:55, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

With SY at least, yeah, any weapon-using class can easily spam it. TNtF works just fine on a non-para since you only need to cover the downtime of when the para's copy is recharging. Vili 点 00:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

You're forgetting Strago; I think Lore definitely counts as magic. Also, when you hit for 9999 in Melee too, casting Ultima is sort of pointless unless there's more than one foe (which most bosses were not) - you'd get, uh, three casts at most per turn using Quicken? Compared to at least 4 with melee... Vili 点 00:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Usually you are fighing multiple enemies...and that spell destroys bosses! Omg. I like the SNES Insvsible + X-Zone auto kill trick the best myself. That was epic.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 00:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Epic cheating. (I admit to using X-Zone to end the fight with Wrexsoul, though, that was just stupid encounter. >_> ) Vili 点 00:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, he was annoying. My favorite area is the Cult Tower...omg, that place was scary, and I thought it would just go on and on and on, I'd never reach the top. My favorite boss was the painting at the art dealer's house. The opera was pretty cool too. When I play it now, I don't cheat anymore, its more fun that way.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 00:20, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I was bad and didn't have Life-3 for the Cultist's Tower, so all of my party would have died from Ultima. So, instead of fighting the conventional way, I just kept casting Rasp to hurt his MP (he has like 2 million or something crazy). All enemies in Cultist's Tower die when they reach 0 MP...so...he died and tried to cast Ultima, but failed. It was worth it. Vili 点 01:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I hate UW and so I figured I'd hate fighting Dhuum. So, I just grabbed some friends who I knew would figure out how to kill Dhuum quickly (lolMobway). We all got shit drops too, and tbh I wont be doing UW again. It's just too gimmicky now and Dhuum is fucking boring. Can't wait until Anet shits all over FoW too <.< Karate Jesus 02:01, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure that fighting Menzies will be much more satisfying. Vili 点 02:14, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

And I'm sure the Menzies wont be balanced around invincibil-OWAIT. Karate Jesus 02:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Dhuum was a Dervish, would you expect anyone to not fight fire with fire? As long as Menzies is a Warrior or something it'll be alright. Vili 点 02:25, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

As much as I would like an end boss in FoW, please don't give them ideas to shit all over it. I still want one fun area.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 18:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I has melon

Your argument is invalid. Dark Morphon 10:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

? Vili 点 07:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Use the chewbaka defense ! Lilondra 07:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

! Vili 点 07:17, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

"This is Chewbacca, and he is a Wookie. Why are we talking about Chewbacca? I don't know...it doesn't make sense. Ladies and gentlemen, if it doesn't make sense, then you must acquit!"--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 19:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

You guys liked the last season of South park ? Lilondra 05:41, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I blame Canada. Vili 点 05:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Whale whores was the best episode tbh :) Lilondra 06:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Butter's Bottom B was my favorite of this season. The Pee one was pretty funny too...Adrin and I were singing "Minorities in my Water Park" for a few days after.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 16:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Hehe me 2 :) Lilondra 17:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

On the topic of Harold Ramis...

...did you end up watching Ghostbusters last night? I watched 1 and 2 + Trading Places over the weekend when I played GW.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 18:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I haven't seen ghostbusters in ages, it would make me all nostalgic. -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 22:01, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I watched it they day we did Dhumm and this last weekend...I watch it a lot, so stop what you are doing right now and go watch it.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 17:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

How? I don't have it. -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 20:35, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

yooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu tooooooooooooorrent –Jette 21:41, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Or you can be honest andd visit Blockbuster. Or better yet www.ghostbusters.com, tell them about the officially licenced GB merchandise Egon "We have the thermal beverage mug and baloons for the kids!" That reminds me, the 12" HR figure should be out now...yay my xmas gift to myself!--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 21:49, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Is it worth it, for ghostbusters? -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 21:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

GASP! Are you kidding--YES!!! If you need more cohercing, read my Top Ten rant!--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 21:49, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

It wasn't a bad movie but I do not understand the fanaticism. Vili 点 18:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't know...its just one of those films where I find something new everytime I see it...its the little things like facial expressions, hand gestures. The jokes never get old, its funny everytime. I know so many people who just love this movie like I do--shit even Zombieland was gushing over it. There aren't many films like that. For me there are 3 gods who make levels of film that are unequal--James Cameron for action, fantasy; Harold Ramis for comedy, morals, and character; and Clint Eastwood for everything else because Mr. Eastwood can do it all and has done it all.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 19:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Ocarina of Time > all, I still have my very first copy. -- Tha Reckoning File:User Tha Reckoning Sig2.jpg 20:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I think that comment goes on my user space.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 20:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Would you consider it blasphemous to play Ocarina of Time on virtual console using Gamecube controller, even though I have an actual N64 (somewhere...) ? I've never played it for real. Only cheated my way through on PJ64, lol. Vili 点 05:30, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

It's probably not much different than using the n64 controller. Although, PJ64 has really nice filters, and someone released a high-texture mod for Z64. ~Shard 05:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Lolo

Zelda bosses suck ass. Dark Morphon 11:33, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

If you are talking about the N64 ones, yes. But go play Oracle of Ages. And do not use an FAQ. Koda Kumi 13:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Morphon is playing the Zelda Philip's CDI games, that explains his being mistaken.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 17:32, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I was desperately trying to forget them. Drat :P Koda Kumi 18:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

lol

I've been reported for running Eprod or Some silly cripslash using dancing daggers and entangling asp :3 Lilondra 08:05, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Funny shit, getting Dishonorable from using an honorable build. How ironic. Dark Morphon 08:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Remember when our mesmers got reported as hackers for using and your favorite  ?. That was pretty funny.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 17:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the time my bar was

I wish I still has the chat of what that guy said. "OMG Hacker how u have 3 elite skills?" ~Shard 21:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

"Purge: Guys! I got Rodgort's! Call a spike!"

"Caller: This target in three, tw--"

"Purge: Wait, shit! It's 25 energy! Cancel, cancel!"

Good times. is for Raine, etc. 21:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I lol'd Lilondra 08:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

We all lol'd. ♥ is for Raine, etc. 03:41, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

You deserved it

for playing a male warrior. What were you thinking? - Mini Me talk 09:58, 29 December 2009

Botz

I saw a /report leecher bot in FA a while back. It would zone, report every other player on the team, and then run around spamming the same skills. If I remember right, it took a week before Anet finally banned it or it just left. Karate Jesus 17:47, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

The biggest problem with dishonour

Is that it is designed around the majority of people in RA knowing how to play...--Orry 03:07, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

No its designed around the majority of people in RA actually playing Lilondra 08:56, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

No its designed around the majority of people in RA not syncing. ··· Danny Pew Pew 10:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

TBH I rly havn't met that many synced teams.Perhaps 1nce a month or something.Lilondra 16:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I think I change my mind, it's designed around the average person being smarter than a monkey, and not the trained kind of monkey either, just a regular old monkey.--Orry 18:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

The problem with bots

is that a well-written one is generally more effective than your average player at anything in the game. if you think i'm kidding, i promise you that i only wish i was. ··· Danny Pew Pew 10:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I spent some time working on an HA bot spike team designed to hold halls indefinitely, but gave up when I realized I don't have 8 accounts. –Jette 19:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you ever seen the gothspike macros in Hero Baddles? is for Raine, etc. 03:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

...people play hero battles? –Jette 08:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah dude, it's so much easier than Codex Arena. --RIDDLE 08:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

...obviously, not anymore. is for Raine, etc. 22:43, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't aware they did even before the change. –Jette 23:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

There were a few people, nothing impressive. is for Raine, etc. 00:39, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Surpising

I am surprised you aren't ranting about something as trivial as hats. --Orry 05:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Why? ~Shard 05:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

probably why Most of the heat (if not all) is at Gaile atm, and well Shard isn't allowed to post there :p --rawr 05:50, 2 January 2010

It was sarcasm, everyone is worrying about trivialities when there ae more important things out there.--Orry 06:06, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

But, you see, I am not dumb like everybody else. I know which things are more important and need fixing. ~Shard 06:20, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps peoples brains for caring about hats so much?--Orry 06:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

That grammar of impeccable sentence was. ··· Danny Pew Pew 06:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

My gramatical prowess disappears when I am tired unless I feel like concentrating. To restate it in a more gramattically correct manner...Perhaps people need to have their brains fixed so they don't care so much about things as trivial to game-play as hats, does anyone concur?--Orry 06:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

^ that, but it might just be better if people just stopped playing Guild Wars altogether. Imagine the amount of research and work that could be accomplished with the dedication an average player gives to the game. ··· Danny Pew Pew 06:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd be scared to let a large portion of the Guild Wars population out amongst the general population.--Orry 07:08, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

The general population is meh. People as a whole are meh. is for Raine, etc. 19:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

this Lilondra 19:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

There is a truthful message buried beneath that bad grammar. ~Shard 20:18, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

That's got to be a myth. Having someone whisper "you're gonna die, you're gonna die" over and over behind your troops would be horrible for morale. –Jette 20:24, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't mock my grammar I know its terrible (in any language tbh).Memento Mori,Memento Vivere or something was the full message.Memento Vivere being remember to live. Completely besides the point : Amon Amarth is fucking awesome.Lilondra 20:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, a little correction: Memento Mori was a phrase uttered by the slave of a roman general attending a triumph (i.e. Victory celebration). It was said after the battle was won, successfully at that, and only to the commanding officer in charge. This was done to curb his pride and prevent him from rising against his masters. Linky. Completely within the point, listen to Iced Earth. NuVII 23:47, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

What I loved about the post was the jab at assassins being terrible at PvP, because it's exactly my opinion as well. –Jette 04:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, assassin is what you play when you suck at warrior. ~Shard 04:20, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Is Ranger what you play when you suck at assassin or what you play when the game sucks at being balanced? ··· Danny Pew Pew 05:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Ranger is what you play when you have a leather fetish. --Orry 07:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Disregard my last comment, I guess I'm the only one.*slowly backs away* *turns and runs*--Orry 19:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

The RA wammo

Is in my guild. I saw him talking about this earlier today. Totally bizarre to click on the first thing in the upload log and see his character. He wins a lot of our 1v1 tournaments. Manifold 01:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

No wonder. He had me convinced he was joking around with mending and healing hands, because he was very good. ~Shard 04:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Could you explain Chizuustepping?--Derv Who Likes To 12:19, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Quarterstepping--neshot. 12:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Chiizu Dance or qstepping afaik Lilondra 12:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

You can actually move during the second half of an attack animation, rather than standing still through the whole thing. ~Shard 05:29, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I used to do that! Then I got lazy and used palm strike. –Jette 14:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I lol'd. is for Raine, etc. 21:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I read it again and it was still funny. :> is for Raine, etc. 09:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

UPdaet.

Come! Join us in the preview political festivities. --Boro 18:47, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

You mean "mindless bitching and moaning?" Anything useful (not much) has already been said. I didn't even bother reading the skill updates; I assumed the TK would do a good job again but judging from Shard's post I guess not. –Jette 19:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm just sorry to hear his comp was still buggin out. I doubt he coulda done anything to improve this update. I'm all for being creative, but as usual, this updates just takes all the wrong classes in all the wrong directions and is incredibly off-target from why all these skills and attribute lines are not desirable for use on their primary class (atleast in lol-PvE anyway...) --ilr 19:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I pretty much like shove. Gives more variety for warriors. Although the stance removal will cause some problems. --Boro 16:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Aren't you also on the TK Jette?--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 21:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but I haven't posted in about 2 weeks, and I think that was a flame anyway. –Jette 00:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

So, what you are saying is they were doing good until two weeks ago? O_O --Orry 01:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

You're assuming that they were working on the skill update 2 weeks ago? lol Karate Jesus 01:59, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Touchè--Orry 02:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Or is it touché?--Orry 02:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

it's touché Rhonin Soren 10:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I figured our the acute accent was the correct one after a little, just typed the wrong one first. Kind of hard to think when sick, lawl. --Orry 13:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

brawl

You take shit too seriously. - Mini Me talk 20:57, 4 March 2010

Play against Pikachu in 2.0. Talk about OP much.--/u/nendingfear ~~Chi! File:User Unendingfear Avatar.png 21:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Everything is a science. is for Raine, etc. 22:46, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

2.0? ~Shard 23:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

2.0 damage setting =p--/ u /nendingfear File:User Unendingfear Avatar.png 23:18, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yes. I only play 1.0 though. 2.0 makes snake that much more gay (uTilt KO at 40 damage? No thanks). ~Shard 23:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Ya, I only play on that. Snake is so unfair in it *whimper* At least 5 auto-kill moves D:--/ u /nendingfear File:User Unendingfear Avatar.png 23:22, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't forget Snake's whole dash attack-mortar BS. 173.88.136.15 00:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Most characters can do that, snake's is only exceptional because his uSmash goes really, really high. The only thing gay about it is the initial hit (there's no way to hit him out of it, because his hitboxes are lolhueg). Ima get some pics of his hitboxes, because they're just stupid. Sometimes I think he has a cloaking device attached to retractable stilts. ~Shard 02:42, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

This is what happens when Hideo Kojima begs you to put his character in the game. --Orry 15:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere where they stated they weren't going to put alot of balance in the game, but the real playstyle of the characters. So that kinda sucks though. InfestedHydralisk 16:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

The "real playstyle" of Snake is to run around in the shadows and subdue enemies as quietly and efficiently as possible, often without killing them. So that isn't anything like what Snake does in Brawl where he just owns everyone. Playing like that in any Metal Gear game is a very easy way to get yourself killed. Vili 点 17:56, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, infested is correct. They admitted they weren't trying to make it a tournament-quality game, but they forgot that people are gonna make tournaments out of the game anyway. Snake isn't overpowered enough that choosing him makes you win right away - he does take a lot of time and effort to master - but he is the best character in terms of range, damage, knockback, and survivability when you know how to use him. They still could have done a better job balancing him. I mean, how terrible do you have to be to let this slip into the game? Did you know his up-tilt also goes through cliffs? Most of his other attacks also have retarded hitboxes. ~Shard 02:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't know the range for that attack was that big. InfestedHydralisk 14:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Cardboard box = srs f'n bzns? --ilr 09:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Against some foes that's Snake's best edgeguard. Vili 点

I Totally agree with everything you said about brawl. I play my little brother on occasion, I beat him nearly every time. Then he decides to choose meta knight. I get raped.

Phantom f-tilt 1, F-tilt 1 again, Phantom f-tilt 2, n-air of omnipotence, Phantom u-tilt ~Shard 06:17, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

"Upgrade to Pro today! Bandwidth exceeded."

ups Vili 点 15:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

They're not my images :/ ~Shard 22:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Better lolutilt vid. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 01:02, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

No complaints about Zelda? I'm surprised. Teleporting combined with balls of doom is about as piss broken as you can get, if I were to take a stance. ··· Danny Pew Pew 09:17, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Except that teleport is one of the worst recoveries in the game. Irritating to people who guard by actually hanging on ledges, but it's such a bitch to aim properly + leaves you way too vulnerable should you miss a ledge. It also kills all your drift so you fall nearly straight vertical. Moreover, I think any advantages from the Din's Fire of Doom are cancelled out by the fact that despite being a "tall" character, Zelda is pretty light and easy to knock around. Oh, and her ftilt and utilt take forever, though they are fairly powerful. Vili 点 17:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Zelda's teleport is one of the worst recoveries in the game. If you land on the ground, or far enough from a ledge that you don't grab it instantly, it's instant death against anybody who knows what they're doing. Her balls of fire aren't that great, you just airdodge/shield them and get close to her. ~Shard 21:13, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

is the game all it's cracked up to be? I think some obscure family member bought me a wii for Christmas in 2008. for some reason people think I actually enjoy all these video games. if it's worth getting maybe I'll get a copy off tpb. –Jette 21:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Only if you have other people to play with. It's pretty boring solo. No sex jokes please. ~Shard 21:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

My 10,000+ matches against CPU opponents refutes your claim. Vili 点 21:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Once you become good at playing against other good players, level 9 computers are too easy to beat. ~Shard 21:28, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I am a friendless jerk, so I guess the wii will remain in the closet. –Jette 21:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

"No sex jokes please"  :( :( :( :( :( :( Thanks! NuVII 02:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

frued and I would like a word with you. –Jette 03:58, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Other people play video games? After 5 years of Guild Wars, it's hard to be sure. ··· Danny Pew Pew