User talk:Xeeron/suggestions/Ban heroes from pvp

If arenanet want to implement one suggestion, could they please start with this one. 198.54.202.150 02:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Getting owned by heroes? Keep in mind, they also have many weaknesses, such as lack of judgment (interrupt flare instead of MS, remove parasitic instead of insidious), lack of e-management (unless its built in to their build), and they are harder to split in GvG. Maybe reducing the limit to 2 heroes per in GvG (like it is in HA) would be acceptable, but they can be such a time saver when you're unable to get all 8 human players for a team.--70.161.97.235 07:53, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

The problem is this - the only reason people bring heroes is to abuse AI. People don't give heroes bars that require judgment, they just give them three fast-recharging interrupts and let them interrupt everything. They give heroes taint because it's flawlessly maintained, and necro heroes never double up on hexes (and thus spread them really well).

The original goal of heroes was a NPC you could use in place of a person - if your monk dropped out, you could just grab a hero and take the same bar. Unfortunately, heroes are terrible at real bars in balanced builds, so nobody does that. Also unfortunately, heroes outperform humans in hex removal, condition removal, interrupt timing, maintaining/microing enchantments, and hex stacking - which is all you ever see them do. When was the last time you saw someone take a warrior hero when their war goes to bed? When was the last time someone replaced a person with a WoH monk hero? Probably longer than a year. All you see are broken hero builds that are boring as fuck to fight since they only add layers and layers of mindless defense (weapon of shadow, warding, pot, 3 interrupts or enchant removals, blind was nignog... its absolutely ridiculous).

Heroes need to be removed entirely because people only run them to abuse AI. If heroes were ever run as they were intended, removing them would be less of an option, but as you can easily tell by opening obs mode, nobody runs them without breaking the game with them. - Auron 08:09, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah remove heroes from RA & HB Gelei 16:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

HB is like "Oh look at me with my pets!". They should remove all heroes from all arenas and remake HB. Heroes interrupts faster than humans, they never fail an interrupt, they know what hexes are on a foe, they know what kind of enchants are on every player and have an ungodly reaction time faster than any human for anything else.--ShadowFog 23:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)