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It is so awesome that they managed to do that this early in the game's life. Now we can all have 100 characters per password yay! SuperRobertWa 21:51, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Why would someone need 100 characters in their password...? ShinraGuardian 21:52, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

alphabet ~4 times foward/backward/forward/backward Justice 21:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

At least they didn't require us to change to a minimum of 100 characters in our passwords to make our accounts more secure --Lexxor 21:58, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

This is a great thing! Now a pass phrase instead of just a password can be used. Wished more more places would increase their limit. Asya

They probably want to allow 100 character passwords in Guild Wars 2. If people with linked accounts made a 100 character GW2 password, they wouldn't be able to log into GW1 if ANet didn't make this change. talk 22:09, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Makes it so much harder to crack with a brute force password cracker.. though if they were going to try they'd probably use keyloggers. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 23:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Compare these passwords:

I used the Guild Wars wiki today!

easy to remember, time expensive to crack (dup spaces do not make much difference if encrypted correctly)

I@m1337!

hard to remember, relatively easy to crack (probably in a dictionary, I did not check)

Yes, it needed to be done. Any password length required to be under 255 characters is artificially that short by some lazy programmer and/or bad software managers. Anyone saying otherwise has purposely limited a variable length, or more likely is probably storing the password unencrypted, where length would be significant. 24.252.50.196 02:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

How is I@m1337 hard to remember? And better yet what was your point exactly? Rockstar 03:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

that was a bad example, replace it with any machine generated random password of 6-10 char len (e.g., 8!jPh2wX). CPUs are not in 1990 anymore, and cracking botnets do exist.

The point is: passphrases are better, easier for normal humans to remember, but require long password capabilities. I'm glad to see NCSoft doing something about the previous password length limitation. 24.252.50.196 19:43, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Here's a visual explanation of why passphrases are better: http://xkcd.com/936 -- Dashface 04:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

All of my passwords are arbitrary common words tossed into a WHIRLPOOL and then truncated to meet the password limit. I don't bother remembering them, they're all in a file called passwd in my Dropbox account. This is perfectly safe because if someone steals one of my computers I'm totally fucked anyway. Also, while Randy's explanations of collective human eccentricity are as poignant as ever, I'm not sure he's bothered to take attack optimization into account. Then again, I'm not exactly a expert.

If you want a secure password, use a passphrase, and a bunch of goofy symbols that nobody knows how to input in the first place. Math is good: ∑ƒπ But really obscure nonsense is even better, like the Unicode emoticon block. 😈 That's not a picture, that's a glyph. If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, your font is incomplete and you should yell at whoever made it. For best results, use control characters in your password. I suggest using the bell, 0x07, so that (with any luck) the server will start beeping uncontrollably when you send the password and give the administrator a heart attack. –Jette 15:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Issues logging into account

I thought that was a weird thing to put in the update notes, to contact support after this change. It turns out I had an issue. I use a password manager and thought I was using a 20 character password. It turns out that all this time GW was ignoring the last 5 characters. I had to shorten my password to the first 15 before I was able to login. Try that if you are having problems. --128.187.97.19 01:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)