Talk:Deldrimor armor

Images

The Gwen picture here is the Brotherhood one and not the Deldrimor one. Veron 12:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I've replaced it with the correct image but it may take up to an hour for the thumbnail to reflect this change. - BeX 12:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Where do the upgrade bits come from? --Lemming 13:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I am sure I saw where it was from on a forum or talk page but I can't remember where.. :S - BeX 13:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Please let the vekk picture stay removed..that is the brotherhood armor and it was incorectly put it here in the first place, another thing I want to know is why does it have an anet property template under the picture?and all of them dont,because I uploaded the pic? EdgeBomber 20:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

If Vekk's armor is wrong, place a delete or image update tag on the image page, since we want to keep the naming covetion for the hero armor images, so they are easier to find. - anja 20:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

That armor for Xandra has got to be one of the best they've done overall imo. Very sweet! (Clobimon Craiggy 22:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC))

Pic are great too see But, WHERE DO YOU GET IT!!!!! iv serch the sigth 20times and i can't find one word on where to find the pieace to make them look like this

Since people are asking; you get it from the elite dungeon. Backsword 21:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[1]is Hayda's armor and [2] is Kahmu's armor [1] [2] --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Prophet Ascension .

Hayda's is amazing! - BeX 01:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Why do the heroes get such pretty armor and we well.. lets just say i rather walk in those clothes then in my armor now :P Mr-HaXx

General

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Are these sets supposed to be a joke? All of them I have seen, except for warriors, have a whole set that doesn't match at all, not even the names of it match. They are reskins from random armor sets... --Deathwing 01:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Erm, haven't seen them in-game, but I don't see what's so horrible about the ones with pics on here so far. The Monk one is really nice, actually. Capcom 01:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Look at the Assassin, and Elementalist....--Deathwing 01:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

What's so bad about them? After Nightfall, those armours look great. Assassins don't need to look like pincushions, and Elementalists don't need to look like sex slaves or windmills. Capcom 02:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow...not a single piece fits together. Not one. How is that wanting pincushions. I'd like Anton's armor. : / --Deathwing 02:27, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Dunno, I like the female warrior set. Looks kinda ~"futuristic". Maybe it would have fit better as Asuran armor, lol. 85.19.140.9 19:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Anyone know if there actually exists any whole armor set that is named Dwarven? From screens I have seen, there is only stand alone pieces, except for the warriors Silver Eagle set. - anja 10:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

And, Warriors have another set of "Dwarven armor", apparently. Here's the female version, and here the male one. I don't know how to edit the table in order to display both warrior armors within the warrior cell of the table : ( Erasculio 13:42, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

As the warrior armor rather is named Silver Eagle, I think we should keep it on a separate page. Like, Silver Eagle armor or simply make that name redirect to Warrior Silver Eagle armor. Doh, I didn't check close enough. Why do the warriors have two full sets and the rest have all pieces that may fit together for some professions? - anja 16:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

LOL! Seriously, what is the point of this armor if none of the pieces match!? WHat kind of look is Anet trying to give it's customers for one of the last armor sets they'll get!? Lightow 17:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

What bothers me is that we may be missing something. I'm not sure if those armor pieces were meant to be used together (something that I think is unlikely, thanks not only to how some do not match, but also how each piece has a different name), or if they were meant to be used with specific armor combinations and we just haven't figured that out yet (say, that the Warrior's Heavy Breastplate was made to be an optional piece for the Warrior Elite Templar armor), or if they were meant to be combined with older armors per our imagination. I would ask Gaile about that, but her user page is already too big, and the issues about armors has been pointed and replied too often, for me to try that right now. Maybe later? Erasculio 23:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Why is it that the armor looks like it matches and yet they are not the same "Type" of armor. Also why cant we put this in the Hall of Monuments? 71.33.35.135

If Arenanet, with this armour type, are encouraging the gamers to mix and match their armour pieces why can't their mix and matched armour be put in the Hall Of Monuments to be displayed as well as their full sets? Move or delete this question if I have put it in the wrong place. :) Torgvil 19:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

This is so ugly - especially Necro...--Stokoe 17:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

For those who have not researched farther into the matter... the silver eagle set is a make-up set because warriors came up one set short in the factions expansion. research further into the matter. i am however highly confused as to why some sets have a pair of gloves and some sets dont. 68.166.219.88 05:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Briar

Dwarven/Deldrimor

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As there is nothing that is actually named Dwarven in game, I propose to call this armor Deldrimor armor instead, since that's what the title track is called. Dwarves could be any dwarves, but this is acquired from the Deldrimor dwarves. If no one has any good arguments against, I'll be moving this over and doing a restructure over the next few days. - anja 09:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I think we should wait until we've confirmed all the set / piece names. -- Gordon Ecker 10:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Not that it would really bother me, but isn't naming this Deldrimor armor going to confuse people about what we are currently calling Deldrimor armor? Erasculio 16:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

As Bex pointed out to me earlier, we already have this with hero armor being named the same as player armor. Just see Elite Sunspear, Ancient or Primeval armor. I don't think one more would cause a lot of confusion :) - anja 17:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

You're right, it would be no different than with Elonian armors. Good idea on renaming the page : ) Erasculio 23:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I strongly support the name change, as there is actually a drop called Dwarven Armor. Ironically enough, it drops from dwarves (got some from some Stone Summit dudes doing Kilroy's dungeon quest against Irontoe). --Baratus 05:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

As we just lack names for two professions now, I suggest we skip this naming totally and keep the info on the piece name article. For some professions the pieces actually seem to fit together, but for the most they look quite odd if they were to be a set. Therefore, having a page for each piece would make more sense, and then include a full body picture for those rare occasions where the pieces actually fit together as a set. Maybe we could include notes on the Deldrimor armor page (/Dwarven, whatever the name we decide on) that the armor info is kept on piece name pages. - anja 17:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I would suggest keeping the Deldrimor armor page so we have something to link through the Armor art navigation template, and listing all the armor pieces available for sale individually on that page (together with the Silver Eagle armor set, again just so we have a place where to link it to from the Armor art navigation thingie). Speaking about armors, Emily has replied to the question about these armors on her talk page, for the records. Erasculio 21:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Support in name change here and use of page as disambig to separate piece articles. - BeX 11:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I changed it to merge because there's already stuff there. Dwarven armor should be turned into a disambig for Deldrimor armor and Dwarven Armor (it's a salvage item) and then Delrimor armor should have added to it a disambig section with links to separate piece articles. - BeX 04:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Links or gallery? I would prefer links, since it will be alot of images if each piece should have it's own. I'm just waiting for Necromancer names and some more material info to get started. - anja 08:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

A minor thing, but I don't think the Deldrimor armor page should be a disambig page, more a common list of links. I think the Deldrimor page could be an explanation about how there is no real Deldrimor set, together with information about who sells the armor and where, and then a list of links for each armor piece. Those would be named over the name of each piece, so we would have, for example, a "Heavy Breastplate" article, not a "Deldrimor Armor (Heavy Breastplate)" article. For it to be truly a disambig page, I think it would have to be the later, not the former. Erasculio 00:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

A disambiguation page is just a page explaining common usage of a term with links to pages. There's no rule about having disambig identifiers on the separate pages. Go look at wikipedia's disambigs. - BeX 06:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

When talking about a disambig, I meant exactly what you are saying Erasculio. Explaining and providing links. See, for example, Leather armor here. It's pointing out to alot of different articles and just providing explanations.
I have started making the separate pages, and I have named them like Mesmer Elegant Long Coat to follow our standard naming scheme (as they are profession specific). We should also make a redirect from Elegant Long Coat, I guess? - anja 08:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I thought disambiguation pages were more limited than that : D I agree with the redirect, too. Erasculio 13:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Should each profession get one Deldrimor armor page like this one, with links for each armor piece under the Deldrimor naming convention? I think the profession specific Armor art navigation bar would get too cluttered with one entry for each piece... Erasculio 16:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Should have read you first, since that's what I have just done.. :P Check if you think it is too cluttered. I think it looks ok, but I wouldn't be against a Warrior Deldrimor armor page with links instead. - anja 17:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Now that you already did it, let's just keep it that way : D Doesn't look bad, either. I thought it would look much worse than it does. Erasculio 17:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I think an actualy existing item gets the page, with a disabiguation note at the top for unofficial usage. Backsword 13:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Confirmed names

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Warrior	Heavy Breastplate, Ironfist Gauntlets, Stalwart Leggings, Sturdy Boots
Ranger	Leather Long Coat, Sterling Leggings, Embroidered Boots
Monk	Gilded Vestments, Adorned Handwraps, Aureate Pants, Ocher Sandals
Necromancer	Gloomcrest Tunic, Grim Gloves, Deathlace Leggings and Demonhorn Boots
Mesmer	Elegant Long Coat, Studded Hose, Silken Footwear
Elementalist	Thaumaturgic Robes, Yeoryios Gloves, Exquisite Leggings, Majestic Shoes
Assassin	Spiked Guise, Bladed Gloves, Oni Leggings, Winged Shoes
Ritualist	Opulent Raiment, Scale Leggings, Beaded Shoes
Paragon	Winged Raiment, Sashed Leggings, Banded Sandals
Dervish	Light Breastplate, Hooked Leggings, Padded Sandals

I removed Silver Eagle as it is not related to this armor, it's a whole separate set. - anja 10:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

ranger armor

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just me or does it look just like druid/krytan armor?

Gwen Deldrimor Armor--Elite?

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I just had Gobrech Stonefoot make me a set of Deldrimor Elementalist armor not a few minutes ago after finally achieving Bold Delver. I was so excited to finally be able to add a set of armor to my heretofore empty Monument of Resilience but to my dismay, examining the monument did not give me the option of adding my new garb to the display. Am I doing something wrong or is the dwarven armor not Prestige/Elite Armor?

Prior to activating the monument I had perfect salvaged the insignias and runes from my Canthan armor and dyed my new set. If the armor crafted by Stonefoot in the Central Transfer Station is in fact not Elite, I would suggest adding some text in the crafting window. I for one would not have spent my very hard earned platinum if I had known it would not be the set that the Monument of Resilience would accept for display.Svartalve 14:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Ugh I seem to have lost my previous addendum to this post. Unfortunately I'm tired and so have to summarize. After scouring the wiki it seems that under Prestige armor Stonefoot is listed as creating stand alone pieces only--thus the different names for each. With the Dwarven armorer as my first unlock of the four, I had assumed that the other GWEN factions' armor sets would be using the same scheme--coordinating pieces with different names. I thought it was strange, but given the number of new things GWEN introduced thought nothing of it.

The main reason why I thought it was a set despite the unmatched armor was the inclusion of the Dwarven set on the Elementalist Armor page. I now wish I hadn't had it made even though of the four factions, I liked it the most followed closely by the Asuran set.Svartalve 15:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

See Hall of Monuments-Question above, Gaile has already sent an email to find out if this is intentional. -- Cynaes 15:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know only 15k armores can be added. Biz 15:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I could add my monks Ancient armor just fine, so that is not true. - anja 15:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Apparently all the other GW:EN-armors can be added to the Hall, so the Dwarven armor is the sole exception. Besides, it wouldn't make any sense if the game that introduced the Hall didn't have any armors to add to the hall .-- Cynaes 16:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess you can argue that Ogden was astonished at the Eye of the North and wondered who built it, that the dwarves (past or present) did not make it and so their armor has no place in the Hall; but then again neither did the other GWEN factions so that rationale falls flat.

I suppose it might have something to do with the fact that GWEN's story revolves around the conflict between the dwarves and the destroyers, and so eventually everyone would gain rank 5 with the Deldrimor by just following the story plus a few visits to the expansion's main attraction, its dungeons (Might not want everyone to have one lonesome armor set in the hall). But then again, for a faction that's so central to the expansion, it's really quite baffling if it does turn out to be intentional. If that's the case then maybe just take out the pseudo set and leave the really expensive gloves on Stonefoot--that way there would be no confusion regarding its exclusion in the hall. - Svartalve 21:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Emily, one of the Arena Net's designers, made some clarifications about the "Dwarven armor" here. It mentions a few of the issues you're talking about. Erasculio 02:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Is this a complete set?

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The pieces all have different names yet while wearing my elementalist armor crafted from here it looks very much like one coherent set of armor. I also can't add it to the HoM though. Any updates on what the deal is with this armor?

See here (Emily works for Arena Net). They are not a full set of armor, just armor pieces that may or not be used together. Erasculio 21:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

'Proper Set' Images

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The images used should not include cross-profession items (gauntlets/bandana) - we should see the correct armwear and headwear in the images, for the wiki, in my opinion. Is Emily going to upload renders? josəph 23:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

But some sets simply don't have a "correct" armwear or headwear. Emily is going to upload renders as soon as she has enough free time, but right now she (and everyone else at Arena Net) is really busy with post-release GW:EN stuff. It's likely she's going to upload a render of each armor piece separately, given how they do not make a set. Erasculio 02:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Which will take a lot of time, so don't expect it any time soon :P DBZVelena | (Talk page) 15:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand some do not have specific armwear, etc., but others do. And simply because EotN has been released, doesn't mean that Emily (or anyone else behind the scenes) stops doing her (their) normal job. Yes, I know it is Design Liaison. -- josəph 18:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

But if you compare the list above (naming each armor piece) with the pictures in the article page, all the profession-specific armwear and headwear are being displayed. The professions currently displayed with a generic armor piece are those that do not have that armor component - for example, one ranger picture is without gloves and the other is with the Chaos Gloves, but both are correct since rangers don't have a profession-specific armwear piece to be crafted. And so on. The professions that have their own armwear have those displayed on the pictures - for example, you may see the Monk's armwear on both pictures (besides, I think Emily and everyone else is busy exactly doing their normal job - uploading renders to the wiki is something she has been doing when she has time, outside of her normal job). Erasculio 15:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Does the armors dye at all?

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I was just wondering does any of the armors dye? besides the gauntlets? I haven't seen any dye pictures of any peice...atleast I haven't found em yet. (ReZDoGG 15:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC))

yes they do. -Firestorm2 22:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

That's good news. I mean, I have nothing against gay fashion, but I'm not sure I could continue running my Paragon in pink armor - he's girly enough as it is. - Vik 05:48, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I think it sux the way the mixed match the armors...

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Not everyone likes to mix match armors up... I would like to have a full suit of actual dwarven armor, but still keep the gauntlets on the list. I like the way the Ritualist Chest and Leggings look, and almost look like they match. But I would love to see how a full suit would look in the theme of the Chest. That would be some sweet armor... I also don't think any of these armors would be worth gettin just to add to another suit of armor, makes no sense to me.... Gauntlets and Bandana are the only ones that would seem to fit with other armors... But the Chest, Leggings, and Feet don't seem they would match with any other armors. I just don't like the thought of doing that... full suits would be awesome, aslong as they all in the same design/theme. And since they ain't full suits, they won't add to ur HoM. I was kinda hoping you could...but they dont have same names, so it won't work. Or maybe they should have Actual Full Deldrimor Armor sets with a seperate Armorer, and put all the mixed up stuff like headpiece's and Gauntlets to another Armorer. (ReZDoGG 15:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC))

adding another armor image?

is there a way to add a second different screenshot to an armor page if i think my screenshot is better? without erasing the older one?

i just spent sometime taking screens for the dervish Deldrimor armor pieces, that i feel are in better rez, and color than existing. --Striker IV 16:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

If you think your images are better, you should replace the old ones, since we want to keep the consistent naming in the armor pages. Upload a new version of the image you want to replace. The old ones will not be deleted, they will be in the image's history, so someone can always revert if they think the old image was better, etc. - anja 16:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Armor Combinations Page

Because Arenanet obviously wants us to mix and match armors, it would be nice if we had a page where people could post their armor combinations. Otherwis, paying for a ton of dyes and armor sets and not knowing if they will match would be quite frustrating Killer Revan 17:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I personally think there's enough of this in the fan forums already, and their way of organizing is alot better for the purpose. - anja 17:31, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I think this would be useful for some things...For example, many of the "common" gloves introduced in GW:EN look a bit odd when used with an armor set that has its gloves connected to the sleeves (there's an empty area between the "common" gloves and the sleeves). Showing this, even if only once, would be useful to let players see how the gloves interact with the other armors, IMO. But, like Anja said, I'm not sure about what kind of formatting would be suited for this. Erasculio 17:43, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

The part pictures

As you may have noticed I've recently started photoshopping Emily's pictures to get overview pictures, but to be able to continue, I do think that it would be good to have all pictures of the same profession at the same angle... For example, take a look at ritualist and dervish, it's impossible to photoshop it together without hours of work and lots of skill. - helena 15:12, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Jora...

Wow she looks.... strange 81.152.20.254 20:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Why? I think it's the coolest armour anywhere in the game. Jora is Germanic, it more than makes sense that she has a sort of Wisigoth armour. 216.185.250.92 01:38, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Reccomended Ranger Gloves

Anyone know any good gloves to go with Ranger Deldrimor armor? I'm thinking of getting it for my Ranger, but I dunno what gloves would look good on him to match. Normal gloves, none of the collector gauntlet stuff. Eldin 22:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I think my friend got Shing Jea. Lucky it's one type you can go to Shing Jea Monastary and pay 20g to test. :P - Bex 02:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Should Be HoMmable!

These sets should be allowed to be put into the "Resilience" monument. Even if there aren't gloves and whatnot for some professions, this armor takes just as much time (grinding etc) as the Asuran/Monument/Norn sets. Besides, IMO the Deldrimor armor is one of the best looking sets in GW:EN (for some classes). Eldin 21:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah some of them are basically full sets, and actually match, and some aren't complete or dont match, and then you have Assassin (female) which is like you got dressed with your eyes shut... o_o - Bex 00:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeh female sin is fugly but male sin rocks! Why can't anet just add the 4 missing sets of gloves (Ran,Rit,Par,Der) and then make the full sets HoM-able. That way you would still have the choice to mix and match with the added bonus of a HoM monument if you wanted it. -- Salome 03:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

most of them is ugly re-skins, halfway finnished and luuks retarded, but i'd still prefer having them as a whole armor instead of different pieces, so u could place them in the hom --Blood Anthem 16:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I am pretty annoyed too just find out i cant add my monk deldrimor armor to the HoM, what a waste of money and time, im not impressed :( :@ XNA 01:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Any problem related to Heroes?

Have been reading all the problem about the Deldrimor Armor and i have a question about heroes using that armor. Are there any problem related to using a armor-piece for "upgrating" a heroes armor and then add the hero to HoM?? Looser--81.161.189.146 15:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Nope, none at all, thankfully! -Chilli

Hayda

how is it that her legs are fully covered when the male paragons don't even have that luxury? Zeph 22:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

It's cold up there in the north. Maybe she's a wimp. :P--70.71.240.170 20:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Its because leg plating for Paragons is a privelage that goes only to the sexiest of femme paras. Hayda's the only one that gets it. ~ A R A ~ 08:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

How about adding the pictures of the full set of...

Each deldrimor armor, to each page for it? These pages:

Ranger Deldrimor armorMesmer Deldrimor armorWarrior Deldrimor armor

...and all the rest list the supplies needed and money needed to make the armor, but shouldn't it also have a picture of the completed set as well? Instead of having to click each link and trying to visualize the whole set, or having to look around on several pages to find a picture of them are. 24.233.254.51 13:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Only warriors have a set, silver eagle. Backsword 13:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm talking about the pieces they have. I know they don't have a full set, but i'm saying put a picture on there with what pieces they have. Like on the ranger page, have a picture of someone wearing all 3 ranger pieces.24.233.254.51 14:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

oh. And also. I'm talking about DELDRIMOR. not silver eagle. theres a difference. 24.233.254.51 14:47, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead. The Wiki is usermade. --Arduinna 15:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I would if I could, but I'm not good at wiki editing. 24.233.254.51 15:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd say, just make the individual pages for these armor pieces(sets) the same as normal sets. 24.233.254.51 20:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

is it just me or...

does anyone else feel like this armor isnt even worth the price...cant put in HoM and its none of them are that amazing imo

yeah, since HoM=everything guild wars has ever been about.

I've bought the Warrior Deldrimor for my female war and dyed it so that it looks goldish. HoM doesn't matter to me so I don't care if I can't put it on display there. It looks awesome to me. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1378/gw027.png 85.76.230.166 15:26, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Linsey's response to that is here ♥ Ariyen ♀ 22:28, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I think

From the looks of the armor, especially Male Mesmer, that Deldrimor was made to get people to Mix and match armors, each piece seems to work with other armors, so I guess Anet wanted peoples looks to vary more than wearing an entire set of the same armor Zachariah Zuan. 23:02, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Yep. To quote the article: "It consists of several stand alone pieces specific to the profession and is not considered an armor set." G R E E N E R 23:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC)