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Woot[edit]

Woho! I think I just got myself a new favorite female NPC! I hope her personality complements her look appropriately. -- ab.er.rant sig 03:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Definitely one of the coolest Necros I've seen. Hope she a hero! Thelordoflard Talk!! 09:24, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Livia would be a candidate for "Hero-specific quotes based on other heroes in the party" if placed in a party with Olias. They'd have so much to talk about... the weak points in the Mantle's defenses, for one (even though Olias' information would be outdated by three years...) --Valentein 14:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

ooo right cuz Olias was White Mantel..--Chrisworld 04:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

W00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000T ma Gangsta

jowjow GW ftw--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:217.84.189.69 .

But he would still know what weaknesses the The White Mantel. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Guillotine X V .

It's White Mantle. -- ab.er.rant sig 16:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

is sexy[edit]

Confirmed !!! The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.168.232.8 (talk • contribs) 00:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC).

heck yes

Livia, show me your scars[edit]

and I'll show you mine... Monk josəph Ranger 12:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I always thought she was talking about the OTHER person's scars, since she doesn't have any? Necromancer uzotaki monosaki 20:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

-hiss- shes mine! :P.. In all seriousness I was talking to her when I went into a dungeon with guildies haha "That heket frenched Livia! VENDETTA!!!111!"--Yakky 00:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

dude she has some nice ass boobs, nice and medium and juicy, i wish i could have sex with her. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:70.132.4.157 .

That's what everyone needed to read. Thanks. Sirocco 02:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Lol, good response. I hope the anon doesn't ruin his monitor in the process... lol -- ab.er.rant sig 03:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I hope he does. :/ josəph 05:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
She has to be the sexiest hero in the universe. I dunno what it is. Her hair and clothes are just in the PERFECT color scheme though! File:Esig2.jpg Eldin 20:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
She's slutty, not sexy - 79.66.102.213 16:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
She's a bunch of pixels actually... josəph 19:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
SEXY pixels. Or slutty. I don't care. Her looks "please" me, so that's good enough. File:Esig2.jpg Eldin 00:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I understand that this is an old discussion, but... What the HELL? KrelusDerian 19:47, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Please get a girlfriend and stop being horny on viritual characters. And ANet, please. Its sad to see you can't make a game without showing off stuff. As if guys can't enjoy a normal game without boobs and stuff. To much eye candy. It's sad that you have to go so low to get people to buy the game. Maybe it just tells us a bit about men and games? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:81.191.186.238 (talk).
It's just skin dude (pixel skin), relax. I don't think creating a sexy char belittles the game. Oh no! boobs /boo Justgetmein 12:56, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I know your all enjoying this pixel boobs...get a life blah blah blah stuff and I disagree with Anet "sinking low" Livia does to boys what Togo does to girls (XD) if you want to see sinking low look at the new X Blades cover, they hired a women to pose in a limited edition....the games crap...3/10 had to be bad. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.191.186.238 (talk • contribs) at 16:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC).

(Reset indent) yes she is sexy pixels.........why did anet have to put such sexyness in livia????? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Jeff6194 (talk).

Elementalist armor. On the other hand, and while they have some skin-showing outfits, Assassins have breasts that are an order of magnitude smaller than some games with "boob sliders" let you make them. If this were a shounen/shoujo anime we'd be hearing constant jokes about their flatchestedness ^_^. --Star Weaver 18:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
A Guild Wars anime...theres an idea a manga too Zachariah Zuan 18:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

A man[edit]

In Blacktide Den, Livia is given a male corsair uniform. Under "trivia", maybe? 67.35.153.195 02:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Trasvesti-Drag Queen, may be?User Ereanor sig.jpgreanor 00:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
ahhh Livia's a man!!! oh god no TRAP
Wouldn't that be an Anomaly? So an anomaly section should be added.Talk page Drogo Boffin 13:43, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Livia has always struck me as a drag queen. There's just something about her make-up, armour, voice and body language that, to me, scream "I'm dressing up as a woman for a laugh". --Wormwood 21:24, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Ogden's Benediction and the end of GW:EN[edit]

Spoiler alert: The following text contains spoilers relating to the story of Eye of the North, Nightfall, Prophecies.


Well, having just finished GWEN today, Livia has given me many questions. In the cutscene at the end of A Time for Heroes, Ogden narrates something like ".. a time for sacrifices", and Livia is seen about to take the Scepter of Orr (well, hesitating to anyway). Also, in Epilogue, Livia says something about going to Kryta, but before that, "a little city called Arah...". Can anyone give an explanation for this? User-brains12-scale-sig.png brains12 19:31, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

There are more hints to this scattered about. Backsword 00:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if she's Orrian. She's implied to be Krytan, but she seems familiar with Orr, and, unlike most Krytans, she has blue eyes and no tattoos / body paint. She's devoted to Kryta, but if she was Orrian, she wouldn't have a homeland to return to. -- Gordon Ecker 02:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Quite possible. Khilbron has blue eyes as well... File:Esig2.jpg Eldin 16:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, Khilbron is...Vizier Khilbron, right? He's a servant demon of Abbadaon though isn't he? Just trying to trick you? File:Esig2.jpg Deciever
Vizier Khilbron was tricked by a servant of Abaddon, he wasn't a servant of Abaddon himself. It was only until he unleashed the Cataclysm and he become the Lich that he indeed became a demon in service of Abaddon. -- Brains12Talk 18:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
The dialogue for Faded Memory and Escape from the Torment indicate that Khilbron was corrupted by Abaddon, but was also manipulated and tricked by Terick / Razakel, and probably didn't know that the spell would cause the cataclysm. -- Gordon Ecker 04:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

OGDEN'S BENEDICTION ALSO TALKS BOUT THE CHILDREN OF THE LEGENDS some of u ppl r thinkin bout livia i know it... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 78.20.132.135 (talk).

This section is almost 2 years old. -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 04:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
lololol--Unendingfear User Unendingfear Gw2flyingmountsiglol.png 04:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I am still wondering about this now that gw2 came out, I bet this was an idea for further study that got left behind. Like the end quests we should have for hallowen that would explain what happen to Mad King Thorn but never got implemented.

Those Shoes![edit]

While the rest of Livia's outfit is smoldering hot, i'd have to go against the fashion decision of her wearing those cheap-looking shoes. The high heels are a little too thick and awkward-angled. They make her feet look smaller, and her calves fatter (because of the way the back of heel is shaped). Stilettos FTW!

Until this gets changed, i'll keep myself distracted by... ahem, other more fashionably-dressed parts of her. Vedreus Aardimus 13:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Interesting.... I don't usually look at her lower half... lol :D -- ab.er.rant sig 18:01, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
She looks like she stole her outfit from a much slimmer Corsair. -- Gordon Ecker 01:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Considering the fact that the only thing I look at on her is her shoes,*valley gurl accent* ur totally right and the color is awful. Totally 5 mins ago blah :P She should go for something that actually doesnt make her calfs look like 4 times bigger ;) --Shadowphoenix User Shadowphoenix Four-Leaf Clover.png 04:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Bug?[edit]

i have a glitch of some sort that when i look at livia from behind i see her face through the back of her head. Its like her hair is translucent so i see inside her through the back of her head and see the inside of her face. kinda like peeps used to say mhenlo had an inscription on the inside of his vest if u set camera right and looked inside him.--Justice 05:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Cynn has a thong, too. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 06:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

wait till u see what eve is wearing. LegionRat 12:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Unless they were replaced in a patch, Eve has low-cut gray briefs. -- Gordon Ecker 23:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I looked in EOTN and shes comando. I saw her this way in gunnars hold. may be the only place she is this way I dunno. LegionRat 11:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I just checked, her underwear's roughly the same shade as her skirt, it's high-cut in the front but low-cut in the back. -- Gordon Ecker 01:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
You can see inside anyone who's in your party, since you can't bodyblock each other and the camera has to have some near clipping plane (and as far as feasable if you want a good z-buffer ...). Plenty of times where I've been attempting to take scenic shots on the run I end up looking at the inside of Dunkoro's head. (Though the best ones are where he's jsut turned around and looking like some kind of derenaged docuementary narrator ...) --Star Weaver 07:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

C cup[edit]

In american size. Yeah, I could see it. Light c cup, maybe maybe maybe a high b depending on how she's laced them. Vael Victus Pancakes. 22:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Na those r D cups--Jeff6194 00:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Lets all guess her virtual chest size. I'm so glad the designers went to such lenghts... such detail... [cough] I'm half expecting one of the TexMod crowd to make an adult skin of her or something the way people seem to drool over her and Cynn. 000.00.00.00 06:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Is it me or are you stupid enough to guess the chest size of a bunch of sexist pixels?--96.23.149.81 01:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

It's the Internet, so it's just you. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 01:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Reliable...and Cute!![edit]

this is definitely my new favorite female npc, she owns nika and cynn only by a little bit. she also makes a good blood necro support hero. Livia FTW!!!Valion Sentis 01:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Nika on the box looked better(as did Cynn and Eve...) but in game Livia is a bunch of sizzling pixels!! Jaian Avery 18:31, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Livia GW2?[edit]

There's been some rumors of Livia being in Guild Wars 2 lets disscus this, at the end of EOTN she takes the Scepter of Orr(gasms) possibly giving her enternal life (and as sexy as she is lets hope youth too who wants a wrinkily Livia?...well i'd still like her) and control over the dead...and as in the Scepter of Orr discussion article a key to open the Dragon's cages. disscus Zachariah Zuan 14:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Please sign your comments... I think she should be there, I think she should be corrupted by the sceptre, and I think she should be ugly so all these teens can stop oogling at pixels and get on with life... would be kinda cool if she uses the sceptre for good tho MrPaladin 13:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
sign with what i'm making my account now, i beilve she'll do whats WRONG...I enjoy oogling her...if only my gf looked like Livia...we could cosplay
you can Sign with four ~'s, even without an account... Liv has had plenty of chances to turn evil already... I personnaly don't care what your GF looks like, we are still not gonna Cosplay >< MrPaladin 14:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
just wanted to make an account anyway Zachariah Zuan 14:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
She'd become undead version of Kerrigan.--140.128.69.99 08:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
250 years and those things will sag. 61.69.199.123 03:52, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


I think Livia became Zhaitan's champion. She looks like an Orrian and said she would do anything to see her home again and upon his awakening he raises Orr from the ocean. The Lionheart 08:35, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Rename?[edit]

How about renaming Livia to Cleavia, since it's an aptly fitted name for her :) KryptonMonster:212.235.227.169 12:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

For something to be called cleavage shouldn't there be less breast be shown? --Arduinna talk 13:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
lolwut? Paddymew 20:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Paddy doesn't understand what cleavage means. Poor young 12 year old. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 20:50, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

LOL, brilliant idea!!![edit]

I bet that Livia is actually what Hayda called her, a prostitute. She learned her necromancer skills from reviving Gadds, uh..."stick". When she fell out with Gadd, it was really because he invented viagra.--68.202.164.151 01:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

... *facepalm* Ok, honestly, Anet please don't give the 12 year old boys any more joke "tools" in GW2... -- Azazel the Assassin/talk 02:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Hayda called her a harlot. Slightly different. :P 76.8.214.158

Doesn't use skills properly!!![edit]

Doesn't use WaM at all!!!


When i load her with ward against elements and ward against melee. She never cast the WaM not unless i micro manage her. However, she constantly cast WaE even when there are no elemental enemies. It would be nice if they fix her up.

Do different heroes of the same profession really have different AI? Seems unlikely … – NuclearDuckie 01:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Not at all. Zhed has the same issue. 187.62.44.42 21:37, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

N/MO[edit]

Necro/Monks heroes also dont use Protective Spirit and would use it at the very least to themselves. However, they cast it to allies effectively.

Mini version[edit]

Can't believe that there wasn't a note for Miniature Livia up yet, oh well added it. Eive_Windgrace 22:11, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

WTF THIS PAGE[edit]

Eh, I dunno. I just wanted to ask whether anyone here noticed that in the picture of Livia in the EOTN Manuscripts, her arm is shown sticking right through her body? Made me lol. :P – NuclearDuckie 13:44, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha[edit]

On her default outfit, it seems her boobs are the best rendered part of her. Good to see Anet have they're priorities right ;)

MM?[edit]

Is it possible to turn Livia into a full-fledged minion master? --68.45.253.189 18:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)Recon Legend

Not sure exactly what you mean by that, but you should be able to make any of the necro heros into an MM.--Deus 02:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok cool. And I have another question. Can an Eye of the North hero be equipped with a skill from another campaign or are they restricted to skills only from that campaign? --68.45.253.189 23:59, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Recon Legend

No reason they would be restricted. Anything you unlock can be used anywhere.-- User Vanguard VanguardLogo.pnganguard 00:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC)