User talk:Gares Redstorm/Archive1

Are you kidding? At the least, guilds that are in the GOTW should be acceptable, let alone ones that placed in the GWWC/GWFC.

On the GuildWiki, we decided that there was no great community benefit to hosting such articles. All they did was cause flame wars and vandalism. They will probably not be allowed here, but that's something we as a community should discuss. Many things will be in flux over the next few weeks, so please be patient! —Tanaric 19:49, 7 February 2007 (PST)

JR, etc

Can I talk you into undeleting my {{deletedpage}} and protecting it? This is the standard wikipedia-blessed way to defuse obvious troll targets. I don't know if you follow #gwp and other irc nonsense, but we haven't even begun to see the tip of the vandalism iceberg we are headed into. S 19:53, 7 February 2007 (PST)

Done. Welcome to the madness... --Rainith 19:57, 7 February 2007 (PST)

Yeah, it's gonna get worse before it gets better. Seems judge, jury, and executioner will still be needed for now. ;) — Gares 19:59, 7 February 2007 (PST)

Luckily you're not short of shiny axes :P — Skuld 12:06, 9 February 2007 (PST)

The closet next to my bed is full of them :D — Gares 12:16, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Images

Some of your images from gwiki have been uploaded here and Rainith and I just wanted to make sure they are yours and not another user's that you renamed or moved. The image in question is Image:Eshau's Spear.jpg but there may be others in the copyvio category that belong to you. - BeXoR 00:18, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Image:The Skybringer.jpg and Image:The Deathbringer.jpg too. - BeXoR 04:14, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Yep, that's my Artemis in all in glory....and boxers. — Gares 11:58, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Mesmer ftw! - BeXoR 12:04, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Ele, but I do love playing as a Mesmer. ;) — Gares 12:14, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Finalised

It has an s in it. Because it's English. :P LordBiro 12:15, 13 February 2007 (PST)

lol. I was hoping you'd see that. :D — Gares 12:25, 13 February 2007 (PST)

A heads up

You may want to take a look at the recent entries in Special:Contributions/Blastedt. Please intervene. (xposted to other admin pages) S 19:01, 13 February 2007 (PST)

Forever Knights

That policy is finished... just get it started (Qanar | talk) 10:19, 21 February 2007 (PST)

I responded on your talk page. — Gares 10:27, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Ok, what does it need to get a policy ratified? (Qanar | talk) 10:45, 21 February 2007 (PST)

See the notes on policies Guild_Wars_Wiki:Policy - though he's specifically talking about the policy Guild_Wars_Wiki_talk:Guild_pages_pilot_program Pepe talk 10:48, 21 February 2007 (PST)

I've posted a new thread asking where it stands. I have posted on some major voice's talk pages in that proposal and hopefully soon it will have a concensus and see what the conclusion is or if more work is needed. — Gares 11:02, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Question

Hi, I'm leaving this message here because I found your name on the Bestiary/NPC... formatting talk pages @ GuildWiki. We're currently trying to create a formatting guide for it here as well, but so far without sufficient response. I'd appreciate it if you could drop by and leave your comment(s). Initial discussion started here, but is continued here. Thanks in advance ;). --Erszebet 09:39, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Once I get off work and can read it in full detail, I will be happy to comment on it. I like the detail from what I have seen so far. Very thorough. — Gares 14:53, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Rumors

I fully agree with the deletion of that article; but, I noticed that nothing currently in Guild Wars Wiki:Deletion policy or Guild Wars Wiki:Article retention currently authorizes a speedy deletion of such articles. I posted a comment at Guild_Wars_Wiki_talk:Deletion_policy#rumors? if you're interrested in adding your opinion. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:21, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Comments on Formatting Items Proposal

Hi, do you know how we can get some more comments on that Guild_Wars_Wiki:Formatting/Items proposal? I think not only me and User:Indecision are waiting for them. So many items to be added to GuildWars Wiki... and yet no "official" proposal how to do that. Thanks for your response. - MSorglos 09:04, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Thx for your response. I think you messed up Guild_Wars_Wiki:Formatting/Weapons with too much location sections ;) - MSorglos 11:02, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Check the history. That was actually Gordon. I plan to fix it when I get the chance. — Gares 11:21, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Noticed my error, sry. But thx anyway. - MSorglos 12:11, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

I reverted the duplicates, and re-added Gordon's edits. No anomalies in the text now. Off to lunch. :D — Gares 12:14, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Minor

This is not what I call a minor edit ;P — Anja 11:41, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Hehe, yeah... It took two clicks of a button to revert. I call that a minor edit. :p See above for the reason why. — Gares 12:14, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

I wont argue about the specific edit, I just find it fun to find more friends of the "always minor edit without thinking much" philosophy :P — Anja 12:25, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Yeppers. If it said +20,000 or +2, it will always be a minor edit from me. :D It helps me when I'm filtering looking for vandals. — Gares 13:15, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

ecto and shards

understood, however ecto and shards have been valuable for as long as the game has been out, and provide some of the most stable prices out there. Anyway I was just re-wording the original phrase which was even more subjective imo. --Lemming64 07:50, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

I'm not getting on you. Check out Guild_Wars_Wiki:Article_retention#Prices. IMO, ectos and possibly shards will always be expensive to most players, however fluctuating prices does not make for accurate information. I hope that helps to explain the issue regarding prices. — Gares 08:01, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Whilst I understand that, and read what is written there it only says there not to put the actual price, nothing about ambiguous terms. but nevermind ;) --Lemming64 08:07, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

True, but think about these examples. Sapphires and rubies, right before Factions you could buy them from the merchant for around 3k (not a lot of money), now they are up to 7-8k. Sentinel Insignas range at times from 3k - 7k, Amber Chunks and Jadeite Shards were worth something when they first came out and now they are around 500g, and Monstrous items were worth next to nothing, skyrocketed when Factions armor required them, then the price plummeted again after Factions was out for some time. You can see how that can make information in articles rather unpredictable and even the mention that an item is valuable presently does not mean that will always be the case in the future. — Gares 08:23, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Umm.... what?

I know you told me to put {{adminreview}} on the user page, but, if I may quote, "Place admin review template only on the user talk page of a user," not to mention the part where it says "Do not place the template on their user page" =P Perhaps you might want to fix that? Just a thought. I'd do it myself, but I try not to edit other people's templates =P MisterPepe talk 13:09, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

White Mantle copyvio tag

See Talk:White Mantle. Thanks. --Dirigible 15:45, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Warning

How dare you threaten me, you may be a sysop, but you do not own this wiki. I put that up there because it appeared there was a revert war going on. I don't need you to agree with it. But it was put there as a precursor to stop further reverts. I'm sorry if you don't agree, but this as was said is a wiki, and therefore is run by people. This is not a dictatorship, and you will not speak to me as though it is one. - Drago 16:27, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Drago, if you are referring to this edit, then calm down. That appears to me to be a warning, not a threat. Your reaction is way out of line. --Rainith 17:12, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Rainith is correct. A warning is not a threat. A warning is, by definition, to give notice beforehand. — Gares 17:29, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

How predictable

NightAngel 19:21, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Signatures

User talk:Eloc Jcg#Signature. -- (gem / talk) 04:06, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

See my reponse here. — Gares 11:26, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

Apology

I apologise for going supra-orbital over the whole White Mantle thing yesterday; I developed a little tunnel-vision over people ignoring talk page messages/requests as the day unfolded, and I should have taken my own advice and gone away for a lie down in a darkened room lol. Anyway, sorry for the fracas Fox 07:53, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

No worries. :D — Gares 11:26, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

Copyvio

Same situation at Signet of Pious Light, except most of the contribs aren't GFDL -- and as the tag is not there, people are now making minor edits to the article. I think the copyvio tag is obviously not clear enough for its intended purpose. Fox 11:17, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

I see it has been fixed. The copyvio tag is a large, light gray box. :p Unfortunately as with most cases, it's clear though users refuse to read it or ignore it. — Gares 11:26, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

MSN

I'll be online the whole day and I've added you to my contacts. I also sent you an e-mail so you'll see what my MSN mail is. -- (gem / talk) 14:15, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Gem

Gem is complaining and keeps telling me to give you a link.--Eloc 06:14, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

Vandal

Vandals Contributions

Admin noticeboard

Hello, Gares. Thought I'd let you know about the admin noticeboard page. Since we popped the Ban and Admin Review templates, the noticeboard is how users are going to contact admins for vandalism and such, as it was discussed at Template_talk:Admin review. Cheers! --Dirigible 18:06, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

lol WoW sux

omfg n00b u ply WoW omg gay hax.

Or something like that. I don't like either game all that much, but I'm glad to say you're not letting that get in your way of keeping the wiki up to snuff. :)

—Tanaric 10:36, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

I figured someone, if not most, would get the hint of where I am spending my gaming time for now. ;) Nope, I've been around too long and tried my best to make GWiki and somewhat GWWiki more successful and I will never let that go.

Maybe GW2 will have a crafting system, such as the CNR system for NWN, which I had fun making improvements, recipes, etc. However, I doubt that will happen with the route ANet has already taken. I'd also like to see ANet support and encourage user-made programs, such as the Khaos configuration system. Last I checked, ANet still hasn't even added a mute box to the sound options. O.o

I failed to mention, though I felt it may not have been appropriate on a gaming wiki, but I am also going back to college starting May 24th. After that, I might go for my PhD. I'd have to register the username Dr. Gares then. ;) — Gares 11:33, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for your hints and advices. I want to see a Dr. Gares here (my diploma is almost done - two weeks until hand-over). Have fun playing (with any game). A german saying "Wenn kleine Jungs spielen, sind sie gesund. Wenn große Jungs spielen sind sie heiratsfähig." (don't know wether there is an english counterpart, translated "When young boys are playing, they are healthy. When grown-up boys are playing, they are marriageable" ;-) - MSorglos 11:50, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, 2 years for Masters shouldn't be too bad actually. While I don't understand German, it's a nice saying. My gf has been playing games with me between 3 and 4 years now and I don't see anything but good things for us in the future. :D Too bad she doesn't read the wikis. That would score me some brownie points right there. :P — Gares 12:07, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

I've tried quite a few crafting systems in games, but none have kept me hooked. My favorite was probably Star Wars Galaxies, because of the neat harvester system, but it required too much grinding delivery missions to be profitable. No crafting system has kept me for long, though. It's a shame, because I'd really like to play a game where I can just craft. For that reason, A Tale in the Desert is a pretty cool game, because all it is is crafting, essentially. You should give it a try if cooperative play is your thing -- there's absolutely no combat in the game at all, though there is plenty of competition! —Tanaric 19:09, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Mmmmmm, that game looks interesting. Want to share more information and experiences? -- (gem / talk) 19:51, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Crafting is fun, but when the system is boring and repetitive I can't stand it. I remember when I played EQ2, I made furniture, and it was awesome, but standing there having to click things and watching your characters animation got old fast. I was going to try making food in WoW, but I watched my boyfriend going fishing... Oh my god... >_< - BeX 01:12, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

WHACK!

Notice: You just got whacked over the head with a straw man =)

Like I just told Lord Biro a few lines up from you last Talk:Main Page edit: I did not demand that people stop contributing drop research data, I asked whether this data can be stored in one article (or a different namespace). So please dont argue along the lines of "The value of this recorded information, imo, trumps any pet peeves some users may have with any RC spikes that may come from it." which maybe is true, but definitely has nothing to do with my request. --Xeeron 09:07, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

I wasn't suggesting you were demanding anything. It is your opinion and you expressed it. I even called it a request. I don't think of my statement as an arguement either, but my opinion on the situation. However, you make a decent point. I did not respond exactly to your request. Instead of The value of this recorded information, imo, trumps any pet peeves some users may have with any RC spikes that may come from it., it should have been worded, "The value of this recorded information staying on their appropriate article's talk pages, imo, trumps any pet peeves some users may have with any RC spikes that may come from it." Not just the value of the information, but the value of where the information is placed. I hope that helps to keep that Straw man in your holster :P — Gares 12:15, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

Thx. A small but important difference: Instead of requesting people to stop adding information (what an evil deed!) I was merely asking them to add it on a different page. ::pets his peeve:: --Xeeron 12:25, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

Revert war

Thank you for taking the initiative on the matter at hand. As you can see by the Recent changes, there has been a sort of a "revert war" concerning Gaile Log and user talk. Again, thanks. ~ BlackGeneral File:Blackgeneralstar.png 16:40, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Don't mention it. If you ever need assistance, just post on my talk. I'm usually hiding in the shadows somewhere. ;) — Gares 16:49, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Will do. See you in the shadows :D ~ BlackGeneral File:Blackgeneralstar.png 16:54, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

sorry for extra work

Sorry about Urn of Sankt Victor - did not notice that the page already was deleted - you are too fast :-) - MSorglos 14:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries. I haven't lost my touch yet. You should go up against my interrupt mez and see how quick I am in game. ;) — Gares 14:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Arwenja Rose

This user is repeatedly removing comments from his/her talk page, and if I read the policy correctly this is not allowed if the comments are not archived in some way. I have already reverted the removal once, but he/she removed the comments again. I don't want to end up in a revert war, so I'm just asking if you can help here :) Thank you! - anja (contribs) 15:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I received an edit conflict and was beaten, though I left an addition to the user that pointed him/her to the relevant section in the user page policy. I'll watch what happens from here. — Gares 17:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks alot :) - anja (contribs) 17:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey.

Get your hands off my cans. :) —Tanaric 15:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone's got to clean up after you. I didn't even mention all the jollyrancher wrappers I have to pick up off the floor. :P Coders need caffeine and sugar to keep going, or at least I do. My prof in Advanced AI eats M&Ms by the handful when we are working, I can't compete with him. — Gares 15:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

You know, I used to feel the same way, but I switched to diet/caffeine free soda three weeks ago and I've never felt better. —Tanaric 16:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Renewing blocks..

I disagree with your decision to restart the block on J.Kougar (or anyone else for that matter) because he went around and got another account 24 hours in. If you wanna block the other IPs, that's fine. I would have rathered you waited and saw what kind of response he was going to give. I wouldn't have minded leaving him whatever present IP he is using if he was going to login and say he'll stop or he'll reconsider. It's only 24 hours out of 30 days... No need to renew the block. --Karlos 13:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

If you look, he registered an entirely new account to bypass the ban you made on User:J.Kougar by making User:Kougar. It was a new, not renewed, block on a different registered name using a different IP, though it is the same person. — Gares 13:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

K, Missed that. --Karlos 14:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I think I've made it clear that so long as people reply to me on my page, I'll reply right back to them (regardless of how many IPs or accounts you block) so you'd do just as well to unblock my original account and IP, because as I've said many times... I'm trying to get a point across, and unless people keep trying to bait me into messing with other's pages and such, I'm not going to go back to that tactic. Don't need to, it got me the attention I needed. Either way though, I guess my account or accounts are irrelevant in the long run. ~ J.Kougar

B2K/P Blogs

Sorry, in the same second as you hit "delete", I added deletion tag xD poke | talk 14:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering why it appeared with a blue link again. It's no problem. ;) — Gares 14:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

RE:Rangeblock

The "User:4.88.40.0/23" block needs to be "User:4.88.48.0/23" instead. MisterPepe talk 20:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I put the wrong number....— Gares 20:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Modesty...

Well, that discussion on Gaile's page is dying and I think she has enough cluttering her page without us going off on tangents, so I am bringing this discussion over here.

I was very blunt over there to cut to the chase. Some people might read that and think I think too highly of my game skills or my ele's achievements. But I did not make a boastful remark, it was a remark to put things in perspective. I have played with the cream of the crop, elite players from Idiot Savants, vastly successful PvE character, guys who have pioneered builds, accumulated great success and wealth or great fame and celebrity. I am not being boastful or blind when I tell you right now that I have not met anyone who understands PvE as much as I do. This does not mean they cannot come with better builds or have better success, they do, all the time. But when I was playing with the elite of the elite, the guys who play with devs, I realized that none of them understands aggro, monster AI and how monsters use their skills like I do. That doesn't mean no one in the game does, I am sure there are people who have my knowledge and perhaps more. What it does tell me that those people are VERY few, if the elite of the elite who first beat Mallyx/Urgoz/The Deep did not possess such knowledge.

Maybe reading this you come to the conclusion that I am even more delusional and full of my self that you first thought. :) But I wanted to explain to you why I held this view. It's not the amount of cash I made or XP or fame or whatever... It's a real feeling based on going head to head with the best in the game. And this knowledge is not aimed at bragging at others, nor at getting props or recognition. I just come from a tradition where you constantly evaluate your knowledge and constantly seek others who have better/more knowledge and learn from them. When I played with those elite PvP players in DoA, I observed a level of playing skill I had never seen before. I saw what I still consider, till today, the greatest monking job I ever saw and not surprisingly, it was by one of the greatest PvP monks in GvG. So, I have much to learn. But on the PvE side of things, I know I am one of the best in the entire game. --Karlos 06:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I've learned from playing MMORPGs that judging others, whether it's their accomplishments or their boosting, is a moot point. People are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of what others' think. Case in point, I think I'm a crappy healer in WoW and I think I don't know anything as much as some of the ones that has been playing since the beginning, yet in my two months I have became the Paladin officer and third in charge of a top 30 guild, from which I helped to get it there as it was a top 100 when I joined, invited to join the second highest guild in our realm, and have others amazed with the knowledge I possess, then say I must have played a long time and I am honest with them and tell them it has only been two months. That is me though. I always think I can do better, that I'm not the best. That gives me the motivation to learn as much as I can, because I hate losing and I hate being uninformed.

In Guild Wars (and this not towards anyone in particular), I have seen a LOT of egos. I've played with those type of people on a regular basis and, as I've said, I don't judge. To each his own. Most I consider friends. I will say some can back it up and other's need to practice and study more on the game and less on stroking their egos.

I am sorry though. I don't get all giddy when I know I'm playing with a dev or someone that has played with a dev. The devs have a job like normal people and they get to enjoy the fruits of their labor like most people. If I was PuGing with an ANet staff, a top guild member, or someone that recognized my name, I would shrug it off because we got in the group for one thing, to do the task at hand.

I played the game long enough to be satisfied with my knowledge and instead of staying with the "elite" crowd, I was much happier helping new players learn the game. My only vice was my goal to collect every green in the game, but because of my attitude towards helping new players instead of farming DoA forever and ever, my goal took a backseat. Though if boasting is the only way to prove anything in Guild Wars, I will say I still won't say I'm the best at a class or as a player because I still see that as a matter of opinion whether it's correct or not. I do have over 6000k though. That is just the cash and almost as much as I could carry with the amount of characters I have across 4 accounts (feel free to hack my accounts now), my green collection (though that is priceless and some items hold sentimental value, so I can't and won't put a price on them), and eh...around 18 or so 15k armor sets, and I don't even remember how much ecto and shards before I quit. Now that can be proven for a fact.

But, actually my comment on modesty over on that thread was me playing around with you. As I've said, I don't judge in those regards, but I will mess with those that do boast and yes, that was a mighty big one. ;) — Gares 13:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Not sure where this is all going, if it's pistols at six feet kinda stuff or laughing with a supersoaker comparing who's is bigger but I think it's important to put on the record that Gares also winz HA whenever I've pugged with him! Now to kick back, watch this comment get ignored and watch the fireworks continue... --Xasxas256 13:46, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Lol. We are just messing around, trading opinions, and such. Thanks for the compliment, Xas. And another lol for "...comparing who's is bigger..." That's hilarious and something I don't do, or don't do intentionally. Think of me as the type who will let the guys fight over the girl to prove themselves and while they are, I'll be in the corner chatting her up. ;) — Gares 14:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

But you did have to mention the 6000k thing though didn't ya? Did you need to mention that to support your argument? ;) Still after who knows how many hours of farming it's hardly a crime to be proud of whatever you've achieved as long as you're not putting anyone else down I guess... --Xasxas256 14:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's why I say we are messing around. But I just cited a personal example following my statement, "Though if boasting is the only way to prove anything in Guild Wars..." Not meant at Karlos, just boasting in general, but used in the context of Guild Wars. Yeah, I guess I was boasting even if it was an example. Not intentional, but I guess I never said I was modest. :P — Gares 14:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The figure stuck out like a sore thumb, it was a bit like making a speech against the obsession with fame and celebrities then just happening to mention the other day while you were at Paris Hilton's house...! You're a programmer, in my mind it parsed as "blah blah, who cares about titles, egos, and the other day while I was sitting on my 6000 pieces of gold, I came to the conclusion that I don't like to boast!" XD And Karlos' comment made me laugh because I didn't think iQ had any time to PvE, what with all their time spent doing evil deeds! --Xasxas256 15:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Gares, there are a few things you said which tell me you're either reading my first paragraph wrong, or you're misinterpreting my intentions. In both instances, you make remarks that portray me as pretty elitist. I find that extremely ignorant, given that you've never even played with me, at all. You have no clue how and where I spend my time in the game.

a) I am sorry though. I don't get all giddy when I know I'm playing with a dev or someone that has played with a dev: This has "cheap shot" written all over it. I do not take pride in playing with "leet" players as proof that I am a leet player. Where in the world did you read that or even construe it? I said I take pride in that when I DID play with top players I found no one that can match my specific understanding of PvE. I derive no self-worth from being recognized by certain individual. I DO pass ceetain tests on my own scale if I am matched against the best of the game and I am able to out-do them. Yes, there is a sense of achievement there. But the company/acceptance is not the indicator. It's being able to figure out Foundry before them.

b) but because of my attitude towards helping new players instead of farming DoA forever and ever: Again, this feels like a cheap shot. How do you know I did not help more (or less) players than you did? Why is it that playing DoA a lot somehow implies that you're not out there helping people? And why is it that helping people new to DoA does not count towards helping people?

You say you don't "judge" but those two statements up there reek of a whole lot of judgement for someone who has exchanged a total of two rounds of PMs with me in over 2 years of playing time. I feel pretty helpless because I felt you judged me as arrogant in that little "modesty" remark, I tried to explain why I felt I was good, and you judged me again, twice, once as deriving self-worth from the company you think I keep and two as preferring to farm DoA VERSUS helping others (as if the two were mutually exclusive). I am not sure I want to explain myself more because I think I'll only be judged even more harshly. I guess I'll settle for your original judgement. I am a boastful and not so modest person. Beats the next two you made.

One small addition: I find it preplexing that you even consider any of this aimed at you and feel a need to do your own set of boasting. I made a remark that I think my ele is one of the greatest PvE characters in the game, and you felt I was being arrogant in that other thread with the jab about modesty (which is now very apparent to me that it was not in good faith), so I came to try and explain to you why I felt that (your own aptitude and the worth of your own PvE chars was never in question to begin with) and you felt a need, a great need apparently, to boast about your cash and greens and what not. Let's just say, I expected more maturity from you. You sound pretty bitter for no reason what so ever. --Karlos 17:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I actually was expressing my opinion, not on what you said, because I was just playing with you in regards to the modesty comment, but to my play style and in game activities just as you did. You told your story and I told mine. My paragraph was not in response to yours, but in addition to yours. Your paragraph stated your opinions on things and my paragraph stating my opinions on things. Some of our opinions did have intersecting subject matter though. I thought it was two people talking about their experiences in a common game, yet it seems I struck a nerve with you. If you saw it as a strike at you, it was not. If you think the modesty statement on Gaile's page was a strike at you, I would not have placed a :P to make sure you knew I was just playing with you.

There is nothing I can do if you misconstrued my words into believing they were anything but a paragraph of opinions separate from your own. If you read the conversation Xas and I had, you would see I said things such as "Not at Karlos, but in general" and that "We are just messing around", or so I thought. You can also read my paragraph and notice that none of the sentences were aimed at you, calling you by name, or by your play style. As you said, we have never played with each other, so I have no clue what your activities in game are, actually. They are my opinions and were not aimed at you, though some of the things you had opinions on, I took and stated my opinion on them as well. I would think you of all people would appreciate a strong opinion. I will ignore any insulting remarks and just chalk them up to you misinterpreting my paragraph. I am sorry you feel this way though. — Gares 19:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I am unfamiliar with this style of human discourse where one person replies to another (and even reacts to the other's words and references them) but states his response was devoid of context. You said "I am sorry though. I don't get all giddy when I know I'm playing with a dev or someone that has played with a dev" and I have to ask... If this is not referencing my earlier statements.... What is it referencing? the words "I'm sorry though" imply that you are disagreeing with me, or expect your position to be somewhat conflicting with me. Then you proceed to draw an image "people getting giddy about playing with devs" which I did not portray and seems to come out of nowhere, if I am to believe you were not referencing my mentioning I played with elite players/devs. How am I supposed to NOT understand this as being targeted at my statement?

In any case, I won't bother put words in your mouth. I feel pretty awkward about this as I don't quite buy the whole "Well, in response to your thoughts, I was criticizing OTHER unnamed people unrelated to this discussion (who also happen to play with Devs and do DoA a lot) and boasting for completely unrelated reasons" I mean it doesn't even seem coherent to me. This is very, very weird. But if this is where you want to leave it, fine by me. --Karlos 21:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

With regards to your green list...

I have several of the DoA greens if you ever want to buy them, I really have no use for most of them and you can have them at 20% below whatever you consider to be fair market value (some you can flat out have for free even). The ones I can recall off the top of my head:

• Stygian Scythe
• Divine Ghostly Staff
• Mallyx's Savagery
• Divine Shadow Staff
• Mallyx's Spite

Whether you think im an arrogant snob or whatever, I have no problem helping you with this. Let me know here or on my talk page if you're interested. --Karlos 19:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Karlos, but I do not play the game anymore. Please read above and hopefully you will see that I do not think anything bad of you. — Gares 19:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Question

Did you forget this? :) -- (gem / talk) 10:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I saw it, thanks. Just keeping tabs on you. ;) — Gares 02:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Np. :) -- (gem / talk) 09:57, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Your sig

Doesn't it have to contain your whole user name according to GWW:SIGN ? I might have misread. --- Raptors

GWW:SIGN#Appearance and color, 2nd bullet. — Gares 01:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Cool, my bad. --- Raptors

User:219.140.59.179

I would suggest not blocking IPs indefinitely. IPs get reassigned. Backsword 16:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Readem's user page

Rather don't cite "ethnic" when he is talking about US citizens, PvE players and/or Izzy. This "There is no clearly defined rule or standard about what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments that are never acceptable include but are not limited to:" can deal will all cases where none of the specific clauses hold. --Xeeron 16:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The definition of ethnicity includes nationality for which was used regarding the obvious insults of Americans and culture for PvE players as they are a social group with shared values, goals, etc. As for Izzy, that reason does not apply to that violation. — Gares 17:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Readem rocks. Dark Morphon 10:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

"Interesting" new site

Hiya Gares! I just wanted to get your attention and point you in this direction. Check it out when you get a chance, and let me know if you have any questions! -- Emily Diehl (talk) 19:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Activity

Hey there, Gares, nice to see you back. If you have time, could you put the relevant details on Guild Wars Wiki:Administrators and perhaps update your activity status if necessary? Thanks :) -- Brains12 \ Talk 17:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome back. Done and done. — Gares 17:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

In the same topic. I have started a request for confirmation discussion on the RfA page regarding your status as sysop. This is just the first step (which could pretty much end in nothing changing), but your input would be appreciated.--Fighterdoken 18:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

NPA ban

Just to give you a heads up: I dislike that topic a lot as well, but when I checked, the one person I would have banned right away was already banned by Tanetris. My guess is that with that guy out of business, the section should be much better off now. --Xeeron 20:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I reviewed all posts extensively, but I don't think it's fair to ban the past infractions that I saw. Which is why I hope that you are right that everything settles down. You've been around just as long as I have on both wikis (longer, actually), so you of all people know how I feel about that kind of behavior. Not everyone is the same, but I've always felt that any discussion should be civilized, though that is always wishful thinking. — Gares 11:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Why are you deleting all of my pages?

What crime have I committed? I have do nothing wrong, except tried to help the Guild Wars players with my playing experience so that hey may have an easier time during theirs. If assisting Guild Wars players is a crime or there is no benefit for Guild Wars advice, Then why is is there GuildWiki? I have always thought of GuildWiki to be a free site for Guild Wars players so post comments and advice as long as they abide by Wikipedia's Editing Standards. Have we been denied our freedom and rights of free speech within reason. According to Wikipedia Standards as long as we the editors assist and do not offend we have the privilege of freely creating useful articles for Wikipedia. Farther more I quote, "Those who edit in good faith, are civil, seek consensus, and work towards the goal of creating a great encyclopedia should find a welcoming environment." This quote is straight from your editing policies page. But I fear losing every page I have ever edited according to recent events. All I wish for is to be able to continue my editing freely for the benefit of my viewers. I am only trying to assist my fellow Guild Wars players to better improve their gaming experience. Instead my advice is obliterated and my kindness mutilated due to it supposedly being unneeded and having no apparent benefit. My intent of helping has been disregarded and my service to the Guild wars community annihilated.

All I ask for, is just to be able to benefit to my fellow Guild Wars players, through my advice and knowledge.

But I am stopped due to the opinion of my overseers.

Please take my comments into consideration and I wish you a pleasant day.

I ibid goodbye, Project Gnome 18:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Your first article "DUSK'S Recommended Builds" was moved to a more fitting location Guild:Dawn Of The Forest/Builds as it doesn't belong in the main space and your other one "Template:Dusk Edit guide" also belongs as a subpage of your guild for example Guild:Dawn Of The Forest/Edit guide so recreating them isn't really neccessary. Also wikipedias policies/guidelines don't affect us here. --Kakarot 18:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Guild Wars Wiki is not Wikipedia - we are completely separate entities with the only similarity being that we use the same software as they do. Furthermore, your pages were not deleted -- they were moved to subpages of your guild page as per Guild Wars Wiki:Guild pages. Guild Wars Wiki:Article retention shows what this wiki holds in the main namespace. Personal suggestions belong either on your userspace or your guildspace, not in the main content area. There is another separate wiki for builds, at http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page -- again, this wiki is not affiliated with them either.

While your intent and contribution is appreciated, there are other places which are suited for this kind of thing.

You can find the moved DUSK build recommendation page at Guild:Dawn Of The Forest/Builds, where Gares had moved it. -- Brains12 \ talk 18:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hm. I would've left something on the talk page, but that's hindsight for you. An outside hindsight, at that. --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 18:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing my complaint. (Earlier when I looked up Guild:Dawn Of The Forest/Builds, but nothing came up. So that explains why.) Sorry, for using up your time and I will start putting any new pages I create under that category. I will do the best to continue contributing to GuildWiki with filling in data that GuildWiki protected pages is unclear on.(Under my pages of course, and not on GuildWiki protected pages.) My own personal advice I will continue posting, but I will make sure to put it under the correct category.

Thanks again, Project Gnome 18:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks as though this has been handled. Work gets in the way at times. :P

Project Gnome, thank you for saying your peace in a civilized manner. I had noticed that a few other users have had already pointed you to review the guild page policy. I still can remember when I first started editing two and half years ago at GuildWiki, so I can relate. I ask that you review the policies and formatting guidelines as Brains12 is correct. We at Guild Wars Wiki have our own policies/guidelines separate from any other wiki. Usually when I get on, it's so short that I'm all business, but feel free to post on my talk page if you have a question about anything and either I or one of the RC trollers ;), will catch it and assist you. Thanks. — Gares 19:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Unmove pages

The recent vandal moved a bunch of user pages to a non sense title, unfortunately I'm 1 of the victims. Can you help me pls, by telling me how to unmove a page pls? Thnks ^^ --MageMontu 19:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Just have to move it back with the 'move' tab next to history. I really wish there was an "undo" for move, but I don't even think wikipedia has that. --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 20:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Special:Log/move -> revert -- Brains12 \ talk 20:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thnx for your help, and thnx Gares for moving my page bk ^^ --MageMontu 20:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Really? Wow, at least I like doing things by hand. --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 20:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Mission outpost?

Hi; I just noticed that this article was delted as irrelevant. I'm kind of curious what was there now and what it would take to make the article relevant as there are over 100 pages with the mission outpost template that now have red links for their very type. (Sometimes I really hate not being able to see what was deleted :D).

Also, I see Staging Area was deleted due to guildwiki copyvio . . . is that a term that shouldn't be used over here or could the page be rewritten from scratch to be useful? I'm not sure if the term is used by the docs or devs or anything. --Star Weaver 16:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the Mission outpost article (not template) was deleted for the reason of No appropriate information. For your curiousity, what was listed was, "A mission outpost is the same as a normal god damn outpost except that there is a mission accessible from it." Feel free to write up something that you think will prove useful. If it needs expanding, others will come in and add onto it. That's what a wiki is all about =)

Your term, Staging Area, does not have any deletes. Maybe you have mistaken it with a different term. And yes, it can be rewritten from scratch. All that guildwiki copyvio means is that the information found in the article was copied without consent from the contributors of the original article as guildwiki and guild wars wiki use different licenses that do not co-inside.

Hope that helps. — Gares 17:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Oooh. (a) Yeah, pulled the wrong word out for deletion type :D. (b) Yeah, that's deleteable O_o.

Also, since there's already a list of mission outposts on the outpost page, a redirect might just be in order.

And it was "Staging area" taht got deleted. I might create it if I have time (get bored). http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=Staging_area&action=edit.--Star Weaver 17:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. You first wrote "Staging Area". Articles are case sensitive, hence redirects at times. That's the one I checked. No worries. — Gares 18:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Dude Where's My Guild

Hey dude I created a guild page last night (12 june) and i log on today to find that you have deleted it. This is my guild we started just a few days ago and we need new members. So I am greatly saddened to find that you are discriminating against my guild. Can you please reinstate the page or at least let me use a template to create it.--Smiley 05:19, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

The easiest way to create your guild page with the current template is to use the F10 menu in game and click on the link for your guild. Please be sure to read the guild page policy before you start.-- Wynthyst 05:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

If you are talking about Guild:House Of Bloodrose, the page is still here. Maybe you created by mistake a page in the main namespace with the same name, and you confused both?.--Fighterdoken 05:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Smiley is referring to Guild:Death to Litten, which was marked for speedy deletion on the basis of G5: Attack page. A page created primarily to disparage its subject or violate the No personal attacks policy. In this case, a gentleman by the name of Christian Litten. The content of the page was reviewed and promptly deleted. In fact, after reading the content on the page, the name of the guild itself could be viewed as a threat against this person. I would refrain from making accusations about discriminating. Instead, think more about the content you wish to place on Guild Wars Wiki and whether it is allowed by policy. Thanks — Gares 06:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

sorry --Smiley 07:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Hate The [Cape]

Why deleted? Last time I checked, we still existed. Lord of all tyria 21:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

DominatorMatrix placed a delete tag of Disbanded on June 6th. The deletion was uncontested for 6 days when I deleted it on June 12th. I'd ask that user why he/she placed the deletion tag. I'll restore the guild page. — Gares 21:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I think i may need to explain since i had part on this also. The page was blanked by an anon, and later reverted while telling the anon the common deletion process. After that, the anon blanked the page again leaving a "disbanded" message on it. After that, DM tagged it for deletion. I think the problem was that the tagging didn't took in account that there was content modification between the first and second blanking by the anon (which, by the way, you may want to report for vandalism).--Fighterdoken 21:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

You're alive

Welcome back n such. Vili 12:36, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Didn't even recognize the name. Heya Entropy. I am shocked that people thought I was dead. Evil never dies. ;) I'm playing, waiting to see more about GW2 and about SW:TOR, but I like to drop in and see how everything's going. — Gares 18:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC)