User talk:Kaisha/Archive/Feb2010

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"2010"

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Happy Birthday!

No comment. -- Lacky 09:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations Kaisha =) -- Cyan 11:28, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Ariyen Kaisha 69.162.71.154 10:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Harky briffday! elix Omni 16:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Kaisha 16:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday ^-^--/ u /nendingfear File:User Unendingfear Avatar.png 18:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Happy birthday! :) — Mini Me 18:17, 4 February 2010

Thank you. Kaisha 18:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday Ariyen! --adrin 20:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday Ari! 67.159.44.51 23:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Ariyen! -Cursed Angel 00:25, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

ConGratz on one year more matrue Ariyen!83.142.230.28 00:28, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Happy one year older Kaisha aka Ariyen :DDDDDDDDDDDD))))00:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)~

Look, I am not this person that you all claim I am. I registered my account on an Ip, on my Ip that had NO talk. Thank you. Kaisha 00:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the wishes. I removed her account from the birthday list, because that account no longer exists. Should I have left it? Kaisha 00:38, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

im confus you own that account sou can remove anytme rite? its ur choice really 67.159.45.24 00:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't own that account. Now why some proxy ips? I am curious. If you hide, why? Kaisha 00:44, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't Know, my Husband changed the internet Modem so I can't proxy. 75.99.28.106 00:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Well, if you are not that person you should not be removing things pertaining to her. The fact that we all know better is beside the point, why you insist on playing these games is beyond me, but have it your own way. Btw, accounts never cease to exists here, so saying you removed Ariyen from the birthday list because the account doesn't exist anymore is just incorrect (and if you are not her as you claim, how would you know?). She may have asked for her userpages to be deleted, but her account is still in existence, as is her talk page. So people would be able to post birthday wishes for her on her talk page without any difficulties. -- Wyn talk 03:51, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk page is protected. Do you protect a talk page, when someone apparently wishes no contact? I would. It's a closure and I believe the person would want to be left alone. Wishing someone else a happy birthday as that person is not closure. Kaisha 06:26, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

IRR

You can only revert an edit once. You have already violated that. Please stop with the reverts in the above section it is not a violation of GWW:NPA whether it's wrong or not. Thanks. -- Wyn talk 20:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so calling someone another name is not NPA? How thoughtful. Kaisha 20:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

No, it's not a personal attack. -- Wyn talk 20:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I consider it to be a violation of my being to be called a name that I am not. Kaisha 20:29, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Please see the Archiving guidelines "Archive a talk page by sections. Avoid archiving a section only partially, since it will break continuity. " So I guess it DOES say you can't archive individual comments..... -- Wyn talk 20:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

[1]Orly? --71.193.48.146 20:36, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I'd consider it acceptable to remove the comment, though I'd prefer to just see it ignored. It's clear the comment was made for trolling purposes and serves only to antagonise Kaisha. However, Kaisha, please just ignore trolling - and by "ignore" I mean "don't comment, go to another page, and find something else to do", not comment or violate policy in return. -- pling 21:38, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

On your talk page

you cannot just remove comments on whim. Removing trolling is fine, but the edits you've been censoring are not troll edits. If you continue, you will be blocked. -Auron 00:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Hm, so one can't remove comments that would provoke drama, etc.? How nice. Are we drama encouraged here? Kaisha 06:28, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

No, what is encouraged here is ignoring the trolls. The only reason they continue to harass you no matter how many times you change your username is that you react. Stop reacting and just ignore them and they will find a new toy. By removing comments, you are violating policy, making you the bad guy. Or haven't you figured that out yet? Nothing they have done/said has been a violation of policy, but what you are doing in reaction to them is, and is going to earn you a ban, while they sit back and laugh their asses off. -- Wyn talk 06:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, when prevention would be the actual key, but whatever floats the boat. Kaisha 06:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

As I said, they have not violated any policy, so what is there to prevent? -- Wyn talk 06:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright, nothing. Guess either way wouldn't make much difference. *amused look* Kaisha 07:14, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

why are you still pretending

[2] that you're not ariyen? seriously. --adrin 02:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Because I am not. Stop assuming. Kaisha 06:23, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

"Kaisha" just stop lying we all know you are Ariyen already. Please don't think we are blind and it's not we don't have evidence to prove it anyway. Stop being stupid and move on. 81.169.168.77 06:31, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, you have sysops who did a check-user when created that showed differently. So, you have no proof to say I am. As I know that I am not. Thank you. Kaisha 06:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

heres the real question, Adrin, IP, why do you care? like seriously, who gives a flying fuck who she says she is? Really? Why does it bother you? Rhetorical question btw i dont really give a shit why it bothers you i was just hoping people might drop it. --Briar 06:38, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

If you don't care, why are you here crying to us? Go away some where else and get yourself banned again like you do all the time for stupid reasons. 67.159.45.24 06:44, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Im here because im bored and i think IP's like you are fun to harass. Whoru? --Briar 06:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Briar you don't know the entire history with Ariyen and her sock problem so pls gtfo. as per ariyen, you changed the name from Ariyen to Kaisha. i mean come on just admit it. --adrin 06:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Adrin, If I was Ariyen. Why do you care? Kaisha 06:51, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

If i dont know the history then enlighten me. Answer my question. Why do you care? --Briar 06:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Briar, take your boredom elsewhere, find some typos to fix or some other constructive contribution you can make to GWW. This subject is done. -- Wyn talk 07:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, Wyn. I plan to archive all of this in a few days. We just have spectators that love me and that may not know why they care or are bored, but I appreciate their concerns and assumptions. It happens to us all. Kaisha 09:31, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... Ariyen got booted, and just a few weeks later this Kaisha being shows up and appears to know an awful lot about not only this wiki, but also about its most vocal contributors, and behaves in a similar way. I can see what Adrin is thinking, but well, coincidence can happen, right? I mean, have fun in here :P Koda Kumi 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I figured that. Not much reason to assume. I could say some of these Ips actually match some accounts. People can type similar or differently. By the way, there's no comma after booted and there's a few run-ons in your paragraph. After all we all have grammar mistakes, including me. Funny, how some will go "you type like her! So, we'll assume it's her!" Kaisha 16:14, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Happy (belated) Birthday

^ -- FreedomBound 17:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Kaisha 17:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Help?

Hellooo Kaisha :D

Do you have any idea how to get the basic layout of a Userpage? ie: Character page links, Colourfulness, Info on it, Stuff like that! Thanks a bunch, Regardssss Gemm.

You can look at Wyn's templates. I haven't had time yet to make my own. Kaisha 19:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, tabs are like the boxes you put stuff in o____O? I like pink or green..:D Do you know how to make userboxes vertically ajoining? XD

← moved to User talk:Gemm

Interesting rule

All women who join the guildwiki have to post nudes of themselves. For example: Ariyen, Wynthyst, Aiine, Gordon Ecker, the whole lot. Just thought I should inform you before the admins have a problem with it. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 04:07, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

LOL. You'll find nudes of me out there some where, if you look hard enough. It might not be pretty, *winks* but it's out there. Kaisha 08:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I've seen it. It literally is tits or gtfo. -- Lacky 14:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Good luck with that guys :P -- Wyn talk 15:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Hehe. You all are fun. Kaisha 17:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I think a group shot is the way to go, amirite? -- Lacky 05:53, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Mm, I'm intrigued. Kaisha 06:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

This is the single most interesting conversation on the entire wiki. --Briar 03:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yea. It's a typical conversation for me. *smile* Kaisha 03:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Userpage

Is breaking the wiki interface.... -- Wyn talk 03:08, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. like Mondo-way. O.O if you could mess around with that im sure people would appreciate it. :D --Briar 03:09, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

It is also 1.35 mb. Our User page policy restricts the size of your main userpage to 300k. You need to remove the large animated images. -- Wyn talk 03:10, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

You may include other pages though (ex. User:poke → User:poke/userpage) –alistic 03:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I am still working on it. :-P ~ Kaisha 03:14, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the breakage, but the large animated gif needs to go. And no Balistic, transcluding other pages does not change the size issue. It isn't how much coding is on the specific page, it's how it translates in the browser. -- Wyn talk 03:14, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

How do I get the white to mo-color? Kaisha 03:16, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Wouldn't Poke's be 11MB then? –alistic 03:17, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

@Wyn, help? I know it's not perfect, but I don't want to do tabs stuff. Kaisha 03:19, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

No, poke's is exactly 300k. I fixed part of the color problem. -- Wyn talk 03:23, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Still white behind the images above Kaisha and Talk. Btw, is size okay now? Kaisha 03:26, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Still a little big, but no one is going to gripe about it. -- Wyn talk 03:29, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Can you change the white to mo-light? Kaisha 03:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

There =) But there's a white border –alistic 03:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Awe, but I was hoping it'd all be mo-color light. border to be navy. Kaisha 03:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Less is more imo, using a single control for your overall background color will give you less headaches, but I can't figure out how to get rid of the border. -- Wyn talk 03:57, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

There's also a problem with redirect messages. Clicking on any of those images that redirect to your userpage will not display the standard redirect message, so the files are rather inaccessible. elix Omni 04:30, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

So? I might not want them accessed. Kaisha 04:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

You don't have that option on a public wiki. elix Omni 04:32, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not the only one who uses link=User:Kaisha on their photos on their user pages. Kaisha 04:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe that's true. elix Omni 04:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, it is. I can show you at least one user page that has it done. I don't see what the problem is with it being used. Nor why people would want to go to photos that they could find via User Images. I think if there's to be a comment left for that photo, comment on the User's talk page. If they want to use the photo, you can do edit to view and find the photo. Kaisha 04:44, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Nope, just you. elix Omni 04:48, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Yep, others. just do search for link=. Celestia has her's done as such. Just stop, even if your buddies put you up to it. You're not going to get anywhere. Kaisha 04:53, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

But you specifically said ""I'm not the only one who uses link=User:Kaisha on their photos on their user pages." elix Omni 04:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

LOL. I knew you'd catch that. See I used Mine as an example. It's obvious you don't know about link=. Pling had suggested this on her page. It is useful. Kaisha 04:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I know about it, but I think it should be discouraged to promote accessibility. By uploading those images you released them under the GFDL, so by rights they should be fully accessible to other users. elix Omni 04:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) The link= option became available with one of the MediaWiki upgrades, but we do not promote it's use, preferring a standard redirect. I can probably dig up the discussion that took place when the change occurred, though poke could probably find it faster. -- Wyn talk 05:00, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Discouraged, yet used? Interesting. @Felix, yea, they're here, but maybe people would rather have their pages viewed first. How about you discuss with Celestia on why she uses the link= and her pictures not be fully accessible? If you have a problem, talk it to the proper pages, get a policy, etc. Other than that. I don't see the problem in using something that's available, even if discouraged. Kaisha 05:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

If you refuse to do anything that's not mandated by policy, you may as well stop contributing. elix Omni 05:05, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Can't you just use the Transclusion list available in the side toolbox to get to the actual image page for images used on a page? --Kakarot 05:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

It's not mandated, Felix and I don't see you contributing. @Kakarot, Yea I tried suggesting something similar. It is easy to find the user's images on the side and look at them. It shouldn't matter if the image it's self is linked to a page or not (either on the page or on the image) as you can view all images via the side or using the search. I have found many images, using the search. Kaisha 05:13, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

No one is going to get banned for using the link=, and we actually don't actively discourage it's use, we simply do not promote it. But I would agree with Felix, don't be a policy monger. There are more things done here on GWW as set by historical precedence and standard practice than are outlined specifically by the policies. You will be a more successful editor here if you defer to advice from other GWW editors than if you try to spout policy (which most of us know much better than you since we wrote them). -- Wyn talk 05:14, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

That's not what he said, quite the opposite. I don't refuse to do things that's not mandated by policy, but I refuse to remove link= just because someone has a cow about it. I use it, other users use it. I don't see why they can't use the side link as Kakarot mentioned. If they have a problem, it's their own issue. Just because someone has it set to have their pages viewed with the photos, doesn't mean that they have to have it linked one way and not the other. I don't see why they can't have it linked both ways. People can find the images easily anyway as they're just as easy to be accessed from the User's Images on the side as they are from the actual images. So, what's the big deal that Felix made? There is none. It's just a trolling moment to complain/whine about nothing. It is my user page, not a public page as the main page has images linked to other pages, using link=. No one has a problem there. Pling created those links. To me, if one is going to complain about the link= on a user page, might as well complain about it on other pages that use link=. Else, nothing is going to change. :-) Decided to wait until today to add more.Kaisha 17:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

Since you chose to email me and tell me you're actually User:Ariyen, I'm reinstating your two-week block that you created this account to circumvent. You're welcome to continue contributing (on either account, but please choose one) once your block has expired. —Tanaric 18:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

More than likely she'll just make a new sock to "have a fresh start" put the same lame story on her userpage, talk the same, cause more drama and get banned again. Derp. 216.119.129.130 20:57, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

That's why we have CheckUser feature nowdays, though it won't work much on dynamic IPs :P - J.P.Talk 07:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully this time she leaves out the shirtless photograph. —Tanaric 22:45, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Obviously doesn't know the saying of "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" aka "Just because you don't like it, doesn't give you the right to speak negatively." Kaisha 19:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Cause the world totally follows old sayings and never does anything wrong. Oh wait...216.119.129.130 23:04, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

You are back again

Welcome back =) -- Cyan 18:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Kaisha 19:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Outside sources?

What are you talking about? Tanaric ragequit ON the wiki. -- Wyn talk 18:56, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

That was long after his initial ragestorm which took place yesterday afternoon on IRC.--TahiriVeila 18:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Obviously, clueless. One posted emails to the wiki as "evidence" despite that honestly, whether true or not. It was no "solid" evidence and I knew what I was doing. I was playfully being a nuisense and saying stuff that really wasn't true as I was bored, which worked. Kaisha 19:00, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

That's all well and good Jake, but Kaisha's comments on Tanaric's RfA, seemed to correlate to SP's comments directly before hers which were appropriate to the information on the wiki (without outside sources). Given the current situation, I didn't even think about the previous email posting. -- Wyn talk 19:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

What did I miss? Drogo Boffin 19:04, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah my bad, I didn't actually pay attention to what was happening on his RfA page and assumed that the outside sources you were referring to were IRC logs or a recounting of the IRC incident--TahiriVeila 19:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Could you please email me or tell me on my tlak page of his IRC ragestorm? If you have logs that would be a plus. Drogo Boffin 19:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Enough, Drogo. I've seen your post on Tanaric's talk and the term borderline asshattery comes to mind. Let it go. — Gares 19:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I simply asked to be informed of his ragestorm. I am not starting anything or asking to add to the issue. My posts on his talk page were perfectly fine. I see no asshatery. You cannot tell me that if you were wrongly blocked and accused of doing something that you werent doing you wouldnt be pissed. Which is what I am/was while posting on his talk page. Drogo Boffin 19:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I would feel wronged, but the ban did last about 2 minutes.

On topic, sometimes it is relevant to use outside sources to prove a point, especially in regards drama filled situations or bans, mostly as a way to diffuse the situation. Tanaric's use of outside sources was relevant given all the drama that has hovered around you. Indeed, he was also correct that you were both users and thus, it ended the drama surrounding it. If you want solid evidence though, I save all my emails I get from this site. You forgot to change your email address when you created the Kaisha user name and emailed me using both Ayrien and Kaisha. — Gares 19:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Now the infinite blocks make sense. Drogo Boffin 19:25, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Since you're Kaisha now, can I have your Ariyen account?

I need a sock. Karate Jesus 22:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't give it to KJ i'll cyber you for it--TahiriVeila 22:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Could the PvX trolls fuck off? That'd be lovely. Misery 22:52, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

What? I genuinely want her old account to sock with....what's wrong with that? Karate Jesus 22:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

KJ, do I look like a bitch? Final warning to leave this topic alone. Misery 23:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and fine... Karate Jesus 23:04, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Picnic Pioneers don't take prisoners. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 05:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

(not) Trivia

Skill history is better placed at the section notes since it relates to the skill usage itself and not to asociated information about the "lore" of the same. If you really want to put it on another section, though, i think "See Also" could do the trick, through a reword of the link.--Fighterdoken 00:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I posted you links, etc. on your talk page. I'm just following a few that have already been fixed with skill history as per a project. If you have a problem. I'd like you to take it the the appropriate pages, aka Formatting skills and the Projects/Skill History. Thank you. Kaisha 00:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Formatting is clear in that regard, so i don't see further need for clarification.--Fighterdoken 00:39, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Skill history links shouldn't be placed anywhere until more are done, and then they will be added to the infobox. This has already been discussed and decided (I thought). -- Wyn talk 02:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

It was done in aegis, was just following that format. Should I just do skill history and leave the actual page alone? (I believe it would leave some - who might want to know the changes, etc. from the way it was to now. That's why I just added them to main page as that's not a problem for me to do. Either way, is fine.)

Every link you have added manually to skill pages will need to be removed when it's added to the skill infobox. It would be much easier to just concentrate on the project of getting the history pages completed and then in one edit add the link to every skill page through the infobox. Aegis was done eons ago, and should not be used as the basis of formatting decisions. -- Wyn talk 02:54, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't see a consensus of it going into the infobox, but okay. Noting to leave main pages alone. Should I undo the other pages then? Or just leave it alone and continue on the Skill History part? Kaisha 02:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)