Guild Wars Wiki:Admin noticeboard/Archive 13
216.70.249.102 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Vandal. Calor 21:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
91.196.55.72 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Spam. Small one, but better stop it now :).--Fighterdoken 20:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- Best to warn on first violation, if it continues then we can ban. --Lemming 23:06, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Cursed Angel (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Has been warned two times but still continues to use the sig with the link ~ SCobra 23:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- oh no what a terrible violation, kill me. --Cursed Angel 23:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
- CA, that's quite a slippery slope you're going down there. Don't doubt that Anja, Tanaric, or anyone else will ban you for a month or more if you keep antics like this up. Calor 00:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Blocked. It's not terrible, no, but disruptive. Not a long block, but if you don't change it the block will get significantly longer. - anja 00:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- ← moved to GWWT:NOTICE#Cursed Angel
76.110.117.185 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
a....comical kind of editing. He's only made one "vandalism". I suggest a warning. I'll leave it up to the sysops--Raph Talky 02:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- One-timers very rarely bother coming back any time soon. -- ab.er.rant 06:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hes still going at it. 68.151.27.108 22:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- And....still going at it...68.151.27.108 22:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- blocked 1 day --Lemming 22:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- And....still going at it...68.151.27.108 22:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hes still going at it. 68.151.27.108 22:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
64.88.4.2 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Vandal that is getting on my nerves --Shadowphoenix 19:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not sure how someone can get on anyones nerves with two edits, but please post warnings before resorting to posting here, most people stop, or don't bother to continue. --Lemming 22:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Just the fact that I am sick and anyone and everyone on the planet gets on my nerves when I am sick. At this point my desk gets on my nerves lol. --Shadowphoenix 23:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Lol, me too coincidently, stupid flu! --Lemming 23:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Bah. Lucky bastards.... *Goes back to stuying* — Galil 23:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well it is simple to catch, just go to the grocery store and tak to the nice old lady; THEN SHE SNEEZES ON U AND U MISS WORK FOR A WEEK.....or so I hear XD lol jk --Shadowphoenix 23:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Bah. Lucky bastards.... *Goes back to stuying* — Galil 23:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Lol, me too coincidently, stupid flu! --Lemming 23:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Just the fact that I am sick and anyone and everyone on the planet gets on my nerves when I am sick. At this point my desk gets on my nerves lol. --Shadowphoenix 23:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
167.104.6.43 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Vandalization of several guild pages, warned already but keeps going.--Fighterdoken 23:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Blocked. - anja 23:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
76.110.117.185 (talk • contribs • logs • block log) (2)
This person loves the underworld page. In fact 5 edits. (vandal)-DominatorMatrix- 01:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- TY Anja :)-DominatorMatrix- 01:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Same guy as above. Calor 01:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Doh I checked for him, guess I missed him. Well at least hes gone for a while -DominatorMatrix- 02:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Aye. Piece of advice when seeing if someone's been reported. CTRL + F, then paste the IP in. Calor 02:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Doh I checked for him, guess I missed him. Well at least hes gone for a while -DominatorMatrix- 02:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Good thing im using FF ^^, and TY Calor this will be useful. -DominatorMatrix- 02:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
The Underworld
I suggest temporary protection as it has attracted dedicated vandal(s)-DominatorMatrix- 02:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- I did just that. We'll see if it/he/she chooses a new one :) - anja 02:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Probably not. Calor 02:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well theres always a IF factor ;). TY Anja agian ^^. Lol and I (think) I am violating the 1 edit revert *whisels* -DominatorMatrix- 02:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Vandalism's exempt from that. Rather, reverting :) Calor 02:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well theres always a IF factor ;). TY Anja agian ^^. Lol and I (think) I am violating the 1 edit revert *whisels* -DominatorMatrix- 02:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well Fast Fingers+Fast Firefox=Some Fun time :P -DominatorMatrix- 02:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I unprotected it again just now as I think it's safe again. — Galil 05:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
75.85.16.102 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Vandalism of Hyena --Kakarot 19:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Seems to have stopped and I'm under the impression warning him now would just encourage him to start again, so I won't. — Galil 19:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
90.9.252.244 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Trolling and spamming, has been warned but continues (mostly on Gaile's Talk Page) --Shadowphoenix 00:59, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- The most recent edits (as of this post) seem legit. Gaile archived and reverted them, but they seem like legitimate questions to me... MiraLantis 01:03, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- He is simply trolling, I suggest that you go to the urbandictionary and see what he has been writing about. This person is just trying to annoy people. --Shadowphoenix 01:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- The IP's edits are hardly in good faith, given the origination of the questioning was in regards to guild and character names obviously designed to be provocative via acronyms of words commonly held to be vulgar. They seem rather childish to me, and mostly just trying to make trouble. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:08, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Oh... OOOOOOOOH... I asked Brains about it earlier (was curious as to the acronyms, Brains warned the user, and I didn't want to egg the user on but my curiousity was all over the place). The "most recent edits" I spoke of look legit unless you get the reference. Props to Gaile for the reverts, then, and I take back my comment about legit posts. MiraLantis 08:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Syshiran009 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Human comercial spammer. Backsword 08:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Banned. - anja 11:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
OvsA5l (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
--lussh 09:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Banned. - anja 11:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
90.9.121.8 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Yseron, a.k.a. 90.9.252.244 --Shadowphoenix 20:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
90.15.62.52 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Yseron, a.k.a. 90.9.252.244 --Shadowphoenix 12:48, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Ockerman12 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Not sure, but possible spam account (human) --Shadowphoenix 19:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Uh I don't think it's a bot/spam account - his contributions look genuine, even if his userpage does advertise an in-game service. I'm not totally sure whether the content on his userpage should be allowed, but this user doesn't need blocking. -- Brains12 \ Talk 19:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah I wasnt 100% postive on that :P --Shadowphoenix 20:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
70.55.136.142 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Just vandalized this page :P --Shadowphoenix 21:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Warned. It looks like a one-off -- if someone vandalises something just once, leave a message on their talk page or watch out for them again. Some vandals just do one thing and then stop.-- Brains12 \ Talk 21:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
70.249.216.145 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
GWW:NPA violation here --Shadowphoenix 21:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Seeing as it's directed at me, it would be wrong of me to act. Anyone else? ;) — Galil 22:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- I would, but no one has offered to let me ban anything. :P Lord Belar 22:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Go ahead Galil, I am your witness that it was a breach in policy not a personal block --Shadowphoenix 22:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- I would, but no one has offered to let me ban anything. :P Lord Belar 22:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
217.216.147.214 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
(Edit conflict) Linking to bad websites according to my McAfee SiteAdvisor — ク Eloc 貢 22:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Considering that was over six hours ago, it doesn't seem like he'll be up to anything for the moment. Keep an eye out, but for the moment, I won't be blocking. As I said above, the one-contribution vandals can be warned until they repeat - they can be blocked following that. -- Brains12 \ Talk 22:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Could you delete that from the history of the page? — ク Eloc 貢 23:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'd oppose that. It's highly unlikely someone would go back in page history and click that link, and after clicking it it's even more unlikely he/she will click something else on that page. Only delete revisions containing personal info IMO. — Galil 23:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Could you delete that from the history of the page? — ク Eloc 貢 23:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
90.48.6.13 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Yseron.... *rolls eyes* --Shadowphoenix 02:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not going to block - the contrib is in February and Yseron's IP seems to change regularly (AOL, maybe?). Blocking that IP now will have no benefit. -- Brains12 \ Talk 14:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I was just making sure that he wouldnt circumvent his block. --Shadowphoenix 14:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
81.251.20.110 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Yseron again.... *rolls eyes* --Shadowphoenix 02:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- You did realize those two comments you posted were from February, right? I'm sure the IP has long since been reassigned.--Pyron Sy 10:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- That doesn't matter, it is a case that it gives him a chance to circumvent. --Shadowphoenix 13:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
PfzHlg (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Returning Spambot (suggest infinte block) --Shadowphoenix 03:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
58.172.195.113 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Vandal, was warned but did it again --Shadowphoenix 04:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Skakid9090 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
I'm sorry, I don't log on to GWW to see this. It's disgusting, and has no place on the wiki, especially on a page that is as likely to be viewed as a game update talk page. Kokuou 06:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Ehh. I don't really see that as something worth blocking unless it becomes prolonged and Skakid carries on doing it. As Auron says, the first measure should be a message on his talk page and we'll see what happens after that. If he carries on, sure a block would be necessary, but as of that comment, I don't think it is. I don't think it's too offensive either - it's not relating to any user or person nor anything to do with the wiki. What I make of it is "abuse" of some build or skill in-game, so I don't think that should effect anyone personally. Bad language, unless it's used in a derogatory way against another user or, as Yseron used it, to cause disruption, isn't really a blockable offense. As to other examples of bad language, think of the context in which it's used. I agree with Ryudo in that a warning or notice on his talk page should be given first. -- Brains12 \ Talk 14:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Mgrinshpon (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Now, This is what i would call "offensive content".--Fighterdoken 21:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- 1) How is it offensive? 2) What policy does it break? — Teh Uber Pwnzer 22:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- If you find it offensive, you might want to try to ask Grinsh to remove it first before bringing it here. I don't see a reason to censor user space, until we have a clear statement alot of people find it offensive. (Consensus, if you wish.) I don't find it offensive myself, so I'll pass on this one until more people comment. - anja 22:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Erh... did you read it until the end? Maybe i am having troubles understanding something, but i would think that sexually explicit content is forbidden on the wiki by GWW:Common Sense. The page was already blanked by other user, but cases as these have been dealt before by sysops.--Fighterdoken 22:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- get a real policy then we can talk, common sense does not exist on the internet Antiarchangel 22:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- lol, banned 3 (or was it 4?) for saying americans are bad. This world fails. 68.35.91.2 22:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- get a real policy then we can talk, common sense does not exist on the internet Antiarchangel 22:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Erh... did you read it until the end? Maybe i am having troubles understanding something, but i would think that sexually explicit content is forbidden on the wiki by GWW:Common Sense. The page was already blanked by other user, but cases as these have been dealt before by sysops.--Fighterdoken 22:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- My point is, you are not in any way forced to read it. It's in user space, and it's not a main user page or talk page. As I don't find it offensive myself, and I know my view on what's offensive can be kinda lenient sometimes, I don't want to make a decision on this. I'll gladly leave that to another sysop, or simply discussion. - anja 22:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- ... 68.35.91.2 22:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- -sigh---Fighterdoken 22:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- This isn't on a main page or even a talk page. There's no reason to delete/ban at all. I'm not even sure why anyone would be offended by this, and I even found it moderately amusing. And doing something here won't stop grinch from writing these short stories. Lord Belar 22:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- I will remove the content from the page as it's too sexually explicit and has no space on this wiki. I won't be deleting the page as I don't really see how that will help - if anything, it'll cause more reposting later on and further trouble. I also won't be blocking unless it is constantly put back onto it. Do not revert back to that edition, nor post anything similar. I'll be leaving a comment on Mgrinshpon's talk page. Oh, and Guild Wars Wiki:User pages covers this perfectly fine, thank you. -- Brains12 \ Talk 23:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- I completely agree with Brains here, that is entirely inappropriate for anywhere on this wiki. And is against the user page policy. --Lemming 23:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- I will remove the content from the page as it's too sexually explicit and has no space on this wiki. I won't be deleting the page as I don't really see how that will help - if anything, it'll cause more reposting later on and further trouble. I also won't be blocking unless it is constantly put back onto it. Do not revert back to that edition, nor post anything similar. I'll be leaving a comment on Mgrinshpon's talk page. Oh, and Guild Wars Wiki:User pages covers this perfectly fine, thank you. -- Brains12 \ Talk 23:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- ... 68.35.91.2 22:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- My point is, you are not in any way forced to read it. It's in user space, and it's not a main user page or talk page. As I don't find it offensive myself, and I know my view on what's offensive can be kinda lenient sometimes, I don't want to make a decision on this. I'll gladly leave that to another sysop, or simply discussion. - anja 22:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
200.50.69.231 (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Vandal, was recently blocked by poke --Shadowphoenix 01:11, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, Shadowphoenix, but you are too slow ;) poke | talk 01:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- :P your banstick is faster then my typing lol --Shadowphoenix 01:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- TOO BAD I GOT A LIST OF LIKE A MILLIONS PROXIES NOW, LOL 203.144.144.164 01:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Nah, your phail is slower than Poke's banstick. Calor 01:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Very much, poke has the fastest banstick in the west (or east :P) --Shadowphoenix 01:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Nah, your phail is slower than Poke's banstick. Calor 01:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- TOO BAD I GOT A LIST OF LIKE A MILLIONS PROXIES NOW, LOL 203.144.144.164 01:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- :P your banstick is faster then my typing lol --Shadowphoenix 01:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- We never sleep ;) Dominator-Matrix 01:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Things mortals do....for hours on endDominator-Matrix 01:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think he might be trying to replace Raptors in the GWW hall of records :P --Shadowphoenix 01:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- gogo --Cursed Angel 01:19, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think he might be trying to replace Raptors in the GWW hall of records :P --Shadowphoenix 01:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Things mortals do....for hours on endDominator-Matrix 01:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- ~20 People and revert buttons FTW Dominator-Matrix 01:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- He'd have to beat Riven first. — Galil 01:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- ~20 People and revert buttons FTW Dominator-Matrix 01:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Yup....-Dominator_Matrix 01:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Zk3Ktz (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Linkspammer.--Fighterdoken 19:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Get Physical (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Reverted my deletion tag on I Find This Funny. Don't want to get into an edit war. --People of Antioch talk 20:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Just a new user with new user pages. Moving the pages to their userspace and explaining why usually helps them. -- Brains12 \ Talk 20:58, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Mgrinshpon (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Ok, he needs to be blocked, now he is just trolling. [1] --Shadowphoenix 21:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- already blocked by brains. --Lemming 21:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Brains (you're ok for an evil admin robot :P) --Shadowphoenix 21:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- One more thank you to Brains. This guy was getting annoying on my talk page. Wandering Traveler 23:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Brains (you're ok for an evil admin robot :P) --Shadowphoenix 21:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Shadow Scribe (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
This person is a blasphmer and a scoundrel! I was browsing the wiki when I saw what he did to the fair and most gracious Brains12's userpage! He must be stopped through a holy crusade! Also, come see me after this Brains. ;) We'll have a good time. Brother Cadfael 03:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Blocked by Ab.er.rant. And don't touch me! -- Brains12 \ Talk 03:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Would I be totally wrong to assume this is another sock of yours, Grinsh? - anja 08:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- No, this one is. Senator Grinchykins 19:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Would I be totally wrong to assume this is another sock of yours, Grinsh? - anja 08:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Brother Cadfael (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Sockpuppet of Mgrinsphon, going around block. — ク Eloc 貢 09:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Evidence of the sock puppetry please? I found nothing conclusive in the contribs. --Lemming 17:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Apart from logging in on IRC with that name and talking about it, there's no evidence that I know of. - anja 20:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- User_talk:Mgrinshpon#Brother_Cadfael? -- Brains12 \ Talk 20:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- And the bit where he got his personas confused. (-3 points for unskilled sockpuppetry, gris.) Backsword 09:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Apart from logging in on IRC with that name and talking about it, there's no evidence that I know of. - anja 20:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Shadowphoenix (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
He violated NPA here! By the cleft of Zeus, this will not stand! I am messenger of god, not some blasphemous, pagan pervert! This indignity must be remedied! Brother Cadfael 19:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- um....what? I was joking.... u have got to kidding me, ugh --Shadowphoenix 19:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Oh and btw im not a he :P --Shadowphoenix 19:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- You think I wasn't kidding when I posted my story? The internet is serious fucking buisness. At least my stories didn't harm anyone. You went out and violated NPA. Commander Grinchycakes 19:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not NPA. Stop the sockpuppetting. Go away. -- Brains12 \ Talk 19:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- OMG YES IT IS NPA IF I WAS GRINCH I WOULD BE VER OFFENDED BAN PLZ Antiarchangel 21:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not NPA. Stop the sockpuppetting. Go away. -- Brains12 \ Talk 19:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
(Reset indent) please dont make my clean block log dirty Q.Q I didnt do anything wrong --Shadowphoenix 22:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Commander Grinchycakes (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Omg, sockpuppet --Shadowphoenix 19:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- Blocked. (fyi you don't need to report on the noticeboard when the offender offended on the noticeboard) -- Brains12 \ Talk 19:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Shadowsin (talk • contribs • logs • block log)
Remember the little problem with Mgrinshpon? well, one of his little friends kinda went and chewed me out for notifying him on PvX (where he said he would respond the fastest.) If I'm at fault here for something, I will gladly take the consequences, but...I'm not sure whether this breaches anything, out of either of us. It happened at the bottom of my My Talk Page. (I left a note at his talk page as well). -- Wandering Traveler 03:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Little? btw:Do not post here in regard to content matters or user disputes.--Shadowsin 04:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm referring to the possible NPA breach on my talk page. Though I do like to post all relevant information. sorry if that was unclear. -- Wandering Traveler 04:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Okay fair enough point Shadowsin, instead I'm reporting you for your direct breach of NPA in your direct offensive attack on Wandering Traveler, as can be found here. Which is a clear breach of policy. Does that suit your liking better? -- Salome 04:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
User-related discussion aside, the userpage of this user is a repost of removed content from Mgrinshpon a few posts above. (just because you use a white font doesn't mean the text doesn't exist).--Fighterdoken 04:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- No shit? Those who look shall find imo. Same as on grinsh's page. Thin skinned tarts. --Shadowsin 04:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- ohai. Cedave from PvX here. Just so we're all clear, this is the internet. Policies should govern articles, not users. Unless it's a severe, personal and literal threat, NPA really needs to step the fuck down. If you can't get over being told to "get the fuckin' shit outta here, you little noob bitch," then you really need to go back to real life, where people are still gonna tell you the same thing. Oh, wait. That won't do any good. Pull an hero? That's really your only option, as I see it. With that said, policies are great. It's the lack of enforcement or the dipshit-rooted enforcement thereof that causes problems. gngbgg. 99.141.194.47 04:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- That is why I emphasized "Possible" NPA breach. whether its severe enough or not, thats for the admins to decide. -- Wandering Traveler 04:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- ohai. Cedave from PvX here. Just so we're all clear, this is the internet. Policies should govern articles, not users. Unless it's a severe, personal and literal threat, NPA really needs to step the fuck down. If you can't get over being told to "get the fuckin' shit outta here, you little noob bitch," then you really need to go back to real life, where people are still gonna tell you the same thing. Oh, wait. That won't do any good. Pull an hero? That's really your only option, as I see it. With that said, policies are great. It's the lack of enforcement or the dipshit-rooted enforcement thereof that causes problems. gngbgg. 99.141.194.47 04:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
(Reset indent) there is an obvious NPA here, but what I am worried about is that he has grinchs story on his userpage, I suggest it be removed and he get blocked. --Shadowphoenix 04:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Are you honestly serious now? I mean, I've heard of people who are easily offended, but that's just fucking ridiculous, to be completely honest. I'm sure what I'm saying here now doesn't belong on the AN, but you'll have to forgive me for my lack of GWW trolling in preference to.. well, I don't troll anything anymore, to be frank. Shadowsin, for one, has a temper, as does anyone who frequents places where the average IQ varies between 50 (dipshit autistic) and 80 (moderate retardation). If I were on more personal grounds with Grinch, you can be damn sure you'd have received a flagrant, well-worded, and lengthy block of text to examine and piss yourself over. If NPA includes words like "bastard", would you be offended if I called you a "mint-licking furry"? At least the first one has a discernible, proper definition. I know I'm coming off vividly, but my entire point here is that you, my dear friend, need to sit back, realize Shadowsin's just as much as an asshole as anyone else you'll stumble into on the wiki, and get over it. If someone offended a friend of yours, I'm sure you wouldn't sit idly by. 99.141.194.47 04:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) Out of curiosity, how many of the above posters are admins? Yeah, that's what I thought. - THARKUN 05:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- That may be. Though have you realized how quick he seemed to jump just because I left a small notification on his talk page? thats quite a ways to go to get offended. Though I can see why he would jump to protect a friend, the circumstances regarding this friend are just plain against him at the moment. -- Wandering Traveler 05:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) I'd also like to make a note that, while it is in the public domain and is protected as such, Grinch's story cannot necessarily be censored. Albeit, it might be vagrant, it isn't like you're forced to read it. Shadowsin's possessing it on his user page is no more harmful than the singles ads on MySpace. If you don't want to know about it, just don't click/read. As for admins, I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty damn sure that anyone can input their piece to any discussion. Unless suddenly all these pages became admin-only territory. 99.141.194.47 05:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- To the anon: I don't mean to sound rude, but were you here for when that discussion was taking place? This is a place for GWW users, not perverts. Though we don't neccesarially have to read it, there are other places it can be posted. Sometimes, policy doesnt cut it, and we just have to look at basic common sense. I will not go into this any farther, to prevent any further controversy. -- Wandering Traveler 05:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately for most of you, I came in primarily on the involvement of Shadowsin, but also on the behalf of your dear GNU and Copyright licenses. No matter the content, unless there is a policy regarding page content that hasn't been brought into the discussion and which remains unknown to me, those licenses essentially protect Shadowsin's right to display the story. Altering the story in any manner is a technical violation of Vandalism, if Shadowsin deems it so. The only mishap on Shadowsin's part may have been calling you a bastard. And/or getting me involved in the matter. Either way, I hope this clarifies my position more thoroughly. 99.141.194.47 05:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- As from Mrhowdoyouspellit discussion above, the user pages policy deals with this kind of content on its own.--Fighterdoken 05:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Uh you mean of the joking variety? The story doesnt directly offend anyone, Like saying I HATE ____ THEY ARE SO FUCKING STUPID THEY SHOULD JUST DIE. To be perfectly honest if sex is that offensive (Mind you the stuff in that story is pretty mild by far) then how are baby's made? It really is just a joke story, notice the end? The Shock resulting in laughter for most sane people.--Shadowsin 05:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Heres my 2 cents to that. No one has any knowledge of teh age of each of the users on here. For all we know, Brains12 could be a 3 year old (just an example). Do you really wan tchildern to be exposed to sexually explicit content? --Shadowphoenix 05:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Uh you mean of the joking variety? The story doesnt directly offend anyone, Like saying I HATE ____ THEY ARE SO FUCKING STUPID THEY SHOULD JUST DIE. To be perfectly honest if sex is that offensive (Mind you the stuff in that story is pretty mild by far) then how are baby's made? It really is just a joke story, notice the end? The Shock resulting in laughter for most sane people.--Shadowsin 05:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- As from Mrhowdoyouspellit discussion above, the user pages policy deals with this kind of content on its own.--Fighterdoken 05:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately for most of you, I came in primarily on the involvement of Shadowsin, but also on the behalf of your dear GNU and Copyright licenses. No matter the content, unless there is a policy regarding page content that hasn't been brought into the discussion and which remains unknown to me, those licenses essentially protect Shadowsin's right to display the story. Altering the story in any manner is a technical violation of Vandalism, if Shadowsin deems it so. The only mishap on Shadowsin's part may have been calling you a bastard. And/or getting me involved in the matter. Either way, I hope this clarifies my position more thoroughly. 99.141.194.47 05:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- To the anon: I don't mean to sound rude, but were you here for when that discussion was taking place? This is a place for GWW users, not perverts. Though we don't neccesarially have to read it, there are other places it can be posted. Sometimes, policy doesnt cut it, and we just have to look at basic common sense. I will not go into this any farther, to prevent any further controversy. -- Wandering Traveler 05:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) I'd also like to make a note that, while it is in the public domain and is protected as such, Grinch's story cannot necessarily be censored. Albeit, it might be vagrant, it isn't like you're forced to read it. Shadowsin's possessing it on his user page is no more harmful than the singles ads on MySpace. If you don't want to know about it, just don't click/read. As for admins, I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty damn sure that anyone can input their piece to any discussion. Unless suddenly all these pages became admin-only territory. 99.141.194.47 05:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- That may be. Though have you realized how quick he seemed to jump just because I left a small notification on his talk page? thats quite a ways to go to get offended. Though I can see why he would jump to protect a friend, the circumstances regarding this friend are just plain against him at the moment. -- Wandering Traveler 05:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) Out of curiosity, how many of the above posters are admins? Yeah, that's what I thought. - THARKUN 05:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Are you honestly serious now? I mean, I've heard of people who are easily offended, but that's just fucking ridiculous, to be completely honest. I'm sure what I'm saying here now doesn't belong on the AN, but you'll have to forgive me for my lack of GWW trolling in preference to.. well, I don't troll anything anymore, to be frank. Shadowsin, for one, has a temper, as does anyone who frequents places where the average IQ varies between 50 (dipshit autistic) and 80 (moderate retardation). If I were on more personal grounds with Grinch, you can be damn sure you'd have received a flagrant, well-worded, and lengthy block of text to examine and piss yourself over. If NPA includes words like "bastard", would you be offended if I called you a "mint-licking furry"? At least the first one has a discernible, proper definition. I know I'm coming off vividly, but my entire point here is that you, my dear friend, need to sit back, realize Shadowsin's just as much as an asshole as anyone else you'll stumble into on the wiki, and get over it. If someone offended a friend of yours, I'm sure you wouldn't sit idly by. 99.141.194.47 04:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
(resetting indent) Agreed with Shadowphoenix. Unless we want to start asking for specific ages, or blocking certian areas on the wiki for certian ages, this is unacceptable. the last thing we want to do to the wiki is restrict the users. -- Wandering Traveler 05:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Those who look shall find. --Shadowsin 05:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
(Reset indent) shouldn't this be moved to the talk page as well its post and ban. not talk, dispute then ban. --Dominator Matrix 05:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- First one admin needs to review and resolve, then we will get moved.--Fighterdoken 05:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- sex and "how are baby's made" have no place on guild wars wiki.lussh 05:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Most of this discussion is a debate over content; please take that to the appropriate page (such as GWWT:USER). Please do not continue this conversation here unless you have something further to say regarding actual or potential breaches of existing policy. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 06:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)